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    Larry,
    That was very nice! Good job.
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    I wish mine would start that fast. Tested mine today, something definitely wrong with the Starter or Spag Clutch. Well now it is time to pull the engine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Z View Post
    I wish mine would start that fast. Tested mine today, something definitely wrong with the Starter or Spag Clutch. Well now it is time to pull the engine.
    Probably not necessarily related to your engine issues, Paul, but Clint, a friend and neighbor , installed his 912S long before Slipper Clutches and Soft Start Modules. He has about 1900 hours on it as I write this.

    He developed a starting technique that pretty much eliminated all problems with starting. I use it on my 80 hp 912 and the engine will start almost on the first turn and to smooth running. This is what he does. Crank with throttle full back, choke pulled and ignition off for about 10 or 15 seconds - also pressurizes the oil system. Then rotate (push) throttle in to approximate idle position, ignition on, choke on and crank - presto instant start and smooth running from the get go.
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    I'm not doubting this technique works well, but Wow 10-15 sec of cranking seems like an an awful lot of wear and tear on the starter for each start. I probably average less than 3 sec per start year around (Portland, OR).
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    I've used Clint's start method for years with my 912ULS. Usually 5 seconds on choke does it. Then wait 5 or 10 seconds and then start.
    The difference Jim may be that we have older 912uls engines without soft start and the older less powerful starters. When I fly Papa's 7SS it starts quickly within a few seconds with the high torque starter. No special starting method needed. Clint has one of the first 912 ULS equipped Kitfox in the US. His starting method works great on our older engines. I also use his shut down method to avoid the hard compression engine stops.


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    I agree the latest engines , with all their improvements , start very well , almost instantaneously . Using the engine owners manuals method.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DesertFox4 View Post
    I also use his shut down method to avoid the hard compression engine stops.
    What is the shutdown method, Please.

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    2,500 rpms, as you shut off both ignition switches simultaneously pull the throttle to full idol. If you time it correctly your prop will come to a smoother stop instead of a sudden more violent compression stop. Takes practice and I still mess it up at times.


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    It flies. After the first run last weekend I had a leak to repair in the home made spider tank which required parts. Did that this week.

    Another successful test run and some taxi testing with brake pad burn in and she was ready to go.

    Even though I didn't get the rpm I wanted, she pulled like a freight train at full throttle and climbed way faster than I wanted to. More testing an calibrating to do hopefull today (if the weather holds) and we'll be on our way.

    My buddy did get some bad cell phone video, so I'll try and get that edited and up soon.
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    Oh, that's good news Larry! Way to go, and congratulations!
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