Of course there were, Dustin. I was referring to Kitfoxes, and those on this forum, when I said I was ONE of the first, as I've commented before. I bought my Oratex stuff and started early in 2014. For the record, I've never said that what you've done is wrong - just different from what was told to me when I started, and if I've come across that way I apologize. Recommendations from Lars have changed about several things over the years since I started - regarding application of additional glue, or not, on the fabric surface beneath finish tapes, rib lacing was highly encouraged, etc. I'm not certain that all of the recommendations from Lars jive completely with the guys in Germany, but that's just a guess based on past history and conversations I have had with the company... could be wrong. I was just trying to present a little history and what the prevailing "wisdom" was when I started using it... direct from Lars, and the owner of the company from Germany who I spoke with at Oshkosh. I felt the Poly-Fiber manual was helpful in several ways, but of course they are two different animals, and anyone smart enough to build an airplane can probably figure that out pretty quickly. Never did I confuse the two.