Thanks for that Dave. It's helpful to understand the margin you are using above stall. If I understand correctly when you are over the numbers you are hovering about 5-8 mph above your stall. As I currently come over the numbers Im carrying about 10-12 mph above stall and likely why Im not sinking and floating. Agreed I don't want to get anywhere near 1 mph above with any height under me, and really thats why I started the post to gauge where everyone is at compared to my practice.