Jeff, I agree with all that you said; however I would like to point out that probably 95+% of us on this forum are not really the kind of "experimenter" that you are referring to. Most of us just want a well engineered, safe, good performing, efficient, reliable, easy to build airplane. We have found that in the mainly standard Kitfox, and it so happens that it is designated "experimental". We like that because it allows us to make more or less minor changes to personalize our aircraft. Because of this you must forgive our comments and advice that appears to you and a few others as stodgy and not very cutting edge. We are just speaking to the majority of folks who follow this forum. Don't get me wrong, I enjoy hearing from those who are truly pushing the limits and adding to the knowledge base for all of us.