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    Default Re: ADS-B out questions

    Anyone know anything about the Rebate?
    The trouble for NavWorx surfaced when ADS600-B owners were denied payment of the FAA’s $500 ADS-B install rebate because the program only applies to FAA-approved and mandate-compliant systems.

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    Default Re: ADS-B out questions

    Quote Originally Posted by fastfred View Post
    Anyone know anything about the Rebate?
    The trouble for NavWorx surfaced when ADS600-B owners were denied payment of the FAA’s $500 ADS-B install rebate because the program only applies to FAA-approved and mandate-compliant systems.
    The “trouble” surfaced long before then.
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    Default Re: ADS-B out questions

    Can we still get the rebate and is there a list of products that qualify?

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    Default Re: ADS-B out questions

    Unless something has changed recently, the final day to register for the rebate was Sept. 18, 2017.
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    Default Re: ADS-B out questions

    Quote Originally Posted by fastfred View Post
    Can we still get the rebate and is there a list of products that qualify?


    Fred,

    https://www.faa.gov/nextgen/equipadsb/rebate/faq/#q0701
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    I kind of feel I got cheated out of my rebate. I installed the Dynon Skyview system with their mode S remote transponder about 4.5 years ago. It turns out that this mode S xponder is compliant with the 2020 ADS-B out requirement. All it needed was to replace my old WAAS GPS antenna puck with the new Dynon 2020 WAAS puck, which I did last year (a super easy replacement). With just a little tweaking of the xponder setup parameters I was fully 2020 ADS-B out compliant, and passed the fly around test the FAA makes you do. So I then went to the FAA website to apply for my $500 rebate (since it was prior to Sept. 18) and found out I was not elgible! It was because according to the FAA ATC records I had been flying around for 4 years with a 2020 compliant xponder, and the rebate was only for NEW installations. Apparently the ATC people can only tell if you have the 2020 compliant xponder and they can't determine or don't care if you have a 2020 compliant WAAS GPS. My old GPS was WAAS but not the 2020 compliant WAAS, in other words not on their "list". I don't know this for a fact, but I suspect that I could have continued with the old WAAS GPS and become 2020 compliant and passed the fly test; they may never have really known my GPS was not on their "list". Anyway I am now all legally compliant but without my $500 rebate. Bummer!
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    Default Re: ADS-B out questions

    So basically our existing transponders need to be replaced with the adsb unit? The rebate ends 2/15/18

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    Default Re: ADS-B out questions

    So apparently they extended the rebate deadline to Feb. 15.
    Transponders need to be ads-b compliant AND coupled to a 2020 compliant WAAS gps.
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    Default Re: ADS-B out questions

    Is it an addition to the existing transponder or does it have to be replaced with a new one?

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    Default Re: ADS-B out questions

    Quote Originally Posted by fastfred View Post
    So basically our existing transponders need to be replaced with the adsb unit? The rebate ends 2/15/18
    fasrfred, You don’t necessarily have to replace a good working transponder. You can just add a UAT transmitter and approved WAAS GPS source. That works if you fly in the domestic US and operate under 18,000 ft. You have to look at the best option for your situation.
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