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    So I need some advice. I had my fox in the driveway doing some guessing and checking. I was checking and adjusting my control surface to make sure I was minimizing unneeded rubbing or noises as I prepare for my FAA inspection. I was folding the wings at dusk. I had one folded and was in the middle of folding the second. I had just taken the pin out and was holding the wing (with a full load of fuel) along the leading edge. A rogue gust of wind managed to blow the full wing out of my hands. It struck the tail and shook the plane. I was mortified at what had happened. However, after an inspection, I found the damage was quite minor. I took an endoscope and inspected the whole frame and found no structural damage. The damage was a few dings in the flapperon and scuffs (not torn through) on the vertical stabilizer. I'm going to add a few pics.

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    At this point, I need some advice. Since the damage is so small, I not sure I want to do a traditional stits polyfiber patch. I'm not sure the best way to fix the fabric and the flapperon. I'm not even sure I should fix it at all because of the miniscule size of it.
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    Pileofgeorge,
    In my experience with any kind of fabric (only automotive and not relying on UV protection) damage only gets bigger. I suspect with 120 mph winds and sun those will worsen over time. You may have a simple fix if your not really wanting to strip the paint down and place a patch over it. I believe Oratex will cover your damage. I would send you a smidge of glue and fabric but I don't have white. Someone here may have white. If someone has some spare tapes you might even just be able to iron the tape over your damage. I believe if you go on betteraircraftfabric.com you can find video of where they have patched fabric on non Oratex aircraft.
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    Thanks for the advice!

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    Quote Originally Posted by efwd View Post
    Pileofgeorge,
    In my experience with any kind of fabric (only automotive and not relying on UV protection) damage only gets bigger. I suspect with 120 mph winds and sun those will worsen over time. You may have a simple fix if your not really wanting to strip the paint down and place a patch over it. I believe Oratex will cover your damage. I would send you a smidge of glue and fabric but I don't have white. Someone here may have white. If someone has some spare tapes you might even just be able to iron the tape over your damage. I believe if you go on betteraircraftfabric.com you can find video of where they have patched fabric on non Oratex aircraft.
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    Did some looking into oratex for patching. Do you think their reinforcing tape would work for these patches? It might work better because it would allow me to line the entire vertical stabilizer with the tape at the level where the flapperons might hit it if this were to happen again. I'm going to assume it shares similar qualities to normal oratex patches seeing as how it's applied similarly. I may be totally wrong in my conjecture though...
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    George, I edited your original posting to make the photos smaller so that they can be seen easier.
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    I believe the patch may be made of the UL6000 while the tapes are UL600 (thinner). I would see no reason the thinner UL600 tape would not suffice. My SS7 is covered in UL600 but all the tapes they send are of the UL600. This is all speculation though. I only have the web site to reference. You could place a call to Lars or Paul of Better aircraft Fabric and they will inform you of all you need to know.
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    Quick and easy patch. Use vinyl sign material. Sign shops have a vinyl that is self adhesive and many people use for lettering on our planes. If you are friendly with any shop they will probably be able to give you a few scraps that will match your colors. Cut small dollies slightly larger than the blemish using pinking shears and apply, no glue, no paint, no mess. Monitor it when you do your preflight. Quick and easy peasy. Good Luck.
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    I like Norm,s suggestion. I think what I would try first is to use the small iron used over some sheet Teflon to prevent any sticking to smooth any bunching of the fsbric/adhesive/coatings where the scratches sre.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Av8r3400 View Post
    George, I edited your original posting to make the photos smaller so that they can be seen easier.
    Thanks! I couldn't exactly figure out how to do that.

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    Alright, I think I've got a plan together on the skin. What (if anything) should I do about the flapperon?

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