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Thread: Oratex matching paint codes?

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    I thought about that. i would be very interested in covering the cowl. I might try the wingtips since they are smaller and less risk if i mess up. if i had guts, id try to cover the ailerons

    I am trying to figure out a couple of processes. i understand that application goes: edges, shrink, tapes. But, can you do a surface at a time? For example on the fuselage, can I complete the bottom before doing the sides? I am using John's pattern and I think it should go vertical fin, turtle deck, bottom, and finally the sides last.

    I'm also seeing conflicting info about glue drying time. I see 24 hours to a couple of hours. I guess it all depends.

    Its a challenging and fun puzzle to work out.

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    Tim,

    I started on the bottom first, then the sides , and finished with the top. The only reason I know of for doing the bottom last is because the bottom is the most vulnerable to damage, and if you had to re-cover a whole section (like the bottom), it would be somewhat easier if it was the last piece installed.

    Glue drying time is variable depending on temperature and humidity. When it turns clear, with no milkiness, I think it's good to go. I would wait for an additional hour or 2 minimum when I did mine. Overnight is good, but it can be ready to go after just a few hours (or, you can wait for a month if you want to).
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    Out of town right now, so I'm not staying on top of the posts daily. I wanted to use Stewart Systems so I didn't have to worry for my health or have my neighbors after me. After several trials, they matched my Oratex Fokker Red pretty well I think. I did use their flattener too on the red. I am using their bright white as well and it matches my powder coat well. I am consistently getting a uniform orange peel is my only issue, though that may actually make an even better match to the fabric. When I get to my wingtips,spinnervous and lift struts, I will try thinning further.
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    Hey Gary,

    May be preaching to the choir here, but it may help someone else.

    The most common cause of orange peel is inadequate spray pressure at the gun. Usually because either the gauge is not at the gun or the pressure is read static (without the trigger pulled). The pressure required is when flowing (trigger pulled) to get full atomization.

    2nd is spray distance and speed.

    3rd cause is wrong tip size.

    4th is poor gun or not cleaned well enough.

    Thinning may help, but I'd check the rest 1st.

    It is much harder out here in Denver to get everything right due to our dry climate and wide temperature swings. And so, what might be right today, might be totally wrong tomorrow.

    I always check all the above and then test spray with minimal thinner and add if I need to until it flows right.

    Greg

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    Finally back home. Greg your point about pressure may be worth playing with when I get back to painting (trying to get landing light provisions done to my wing tips). My gun is cleaned regularly and I'm using the recommended tip, but the gun is stamped for 20 psi max so that is what I've been using. This has worked just fine in the past for spraying automotive acrylics, but I don't think it would hurt anything to try bumping up the pressure a bit higher than that.
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    Default Re: Oratex matching paint codes?

    Quote Originally Posted by colospace View Post
    Finally back home. Greg your point about pressure may be worth playing with when I get back to painting (trying to get landing light provisions done to my wing tips). My gun is cleaned regularly and I'm using the recommended tip, but the gun is stamped for 20 psi max so that is what I've been using. This has worked just fine in the past for spraying automotive acrylics, but I don't think it would hurt anything to try bumping up the pressure a bit higher than that.

    I'll agree with that also, turn that pressure up, and maybe close the volume a bit. if it appears sandy while spraying then turn the volume of paint up till it goes away,

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    Default Re: Oratex matching paint codes?

    Quote Originally Posted by TahoeTim View Post
    Has anyone sourced matching paint for their Oratex project? (other than Oratex paint)

    I have started my covering and want to plan ahead. I am using white and Fokker Red.

    Thanks
    If you decide to paint, try Industrial Finishes on the corner of Mira Loma and Longely in Reno. Sometimes the codes in the log books don't match the aircraft paint. We take a panel with the color needed and they'll whip up a batch in less than a day. Just take In a small piece of scrap covering.

    Which weight of Oratex are you using?

    -Shua

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