Dustin, I don't have VGs. Other than the entertainment factor of doing these short landings I just won't put VGs to good use. I realize they are an inexpensive proposition and if put to use they are very beneficial. Here is my rub with putting them on my plane. In my years as a helicopter mechanic in the military, I have washed many aircraft. Having 100 little plastic pieces to get knocked around and in my way adds to my distain for washing airplanes. Weird I know but its just enough a deterrent for me. I would if I had real purpose for landing short. CA kinda stinks for backcountry stuff.