Kitfox Aircraft Stick and Rudder Stein Air Grove Aircraft TCW Technologies Dynon Avionics AeroLED MGL Avionics Leading Edge Airfoils Desser EarthX Batteries Garmin G3X Touch
Results 1 to 10 of 44

Thread: After Market Fuel Injection

Hybrid View

Previous Post Previous Post   Next Post Next Post
  1. #1
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Nov 2013
    Location
    Boise, ID
    Posts
    249

    Default Re: After Market Fuel Injection

    How long will the system operate on battery power -

    When you load shed nothing?
    When you load shed EVERYTHING but the fuel injection/pump?

  2. #2
    Senior Member jmodguy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2014
    Location
    Carmel, IN
    Posts
    744

    Default Re: After Market Fuel Injection

    Quote Originally Posted by GuppyWN View Post
    How long will the system operate on battery power -

    When you load shed nothing?
    When you load shed EVERYTHING but the fuel injection/pump?
    That would be determined by the battery "size", what other systems/devices you have installed and and would be best addressed by the manufacturer/distributor. The pump is definitely the power hog though...
    On your last statement you will also need power for the ECU, otherwise you would be squirting fuel into an engine with no spark!

  3. #3
    Senior Member Esser's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2011
    Location
    Edmonton, AB
    Posts
    2,048

    Default Re: After Market Fuel Injection

    Ross from SDS said you will have about 30 to 45 min of time in an electrical failure depending on your loads. I feel that is more than enough time in most situations to set yourself up for a non life threatening event. We are setting up our plane with an essential bus and then a secondary bus with a two battery approach as described in AeroElectric connection.

    We adding a single injector in the middle of the intake manifold that will be a 70% power back up in the highy unlikely event of an ECU failure that will be controlled by a CB.

  4. #4
    Senior Member AirFox's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2012
    Location
    Portland, Or
    Posts
    420

    Default Re: After Market Fuel Injection

    EFI Update

    It's been a while since I posted my search for an EFI system. I decided on the Edgeperformance.no 4-1 directport fuel injection system.

    20170702_185736.jpg

    Lots of work went into determining what system would fit under my SS7 cowl. I ordered the "Trixy" intake with the injectors facing forward and aft to clear the cowl. The Trixy intake is swept aft for clearance for the Airmaster slip rings on the aft of the gearbox. The top of the intake clears the cowl by a little more than a 1/2 inch.

    Over the past week or so I have been installing the system. The system consists of the intake manifold, Pressure Regulator, vac manifod, ECU, O2 sensor, wire harness, ECI relocation brackets, and Dual fuel pump with hoses and connectors. I've spent about 25 hours on the installation. I'm pretty happy with all the components so far. The system is installed and ready for operation. I found a leak on one of the AN 6 PTFE fuel fittings. This fuel system is really nice but you have to order/wait for everything. As soon as the fitting arrives I'll be starting the engine.

    20170702_185755.jpg

    I installed an extra EarthX(2.5lb offset by the weight saved on the EFI sys) battery that will automatically power the ECU and Fuel pumps in the event the Regulator and/or main Battery fails.

    Thought there was interest on this upgrade so I'll keep you posted on the first run and results of the upgrade.

    Scott
    Scott Noble
    Kitfox SS7

  5. #5
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Dec 2012
    Location
    Mt Beauty, Australia
    Posts
    1,073

    Default Re: After Market Fuel Injection

    Hi Scotty,

    Nice work - it will be good to hear how you find it when flying. What was your main motivation for doing it? Did you install the Earth X as an additional battery? I have the Earth X as the only battery with a bypass to start and run the engine in the event of computer system failure. (912is sport). Also, I've been away for nearly 4 weeks and the temps have been minus most evenings so I was curious as to the state of the battery on return. It showed 11.7 volts but started up the engine with ease. It has 300 hours on it now and I guess double or triple that no of starts. Happy with it so far and interested to see how many years I get out of it.

    cheers for now

    r
    Ross
    Mt Beauty, Vic
    OZ
    Sold to Richard and Scott Taubman in OZ, 2019. Kitfox SS7,Rotax 912is Sport, Airmaster CSP 75" blades.
    Landcruiser and Cub off road camper (doesn't get any kudos on this forum!)

  6. #6
    Senior Member AirFox's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2012
    Location
    Portland, Or
    Posts
    420

    Default Re: After Market Fuel Injection

    Hay Ross,

    My primary purpose of the EFI is to modernize the fuel system. The last push was the latest Rotax float recall. I had a sunk float last October and I'm still waiting for a float replacement. Luckily a good friend(Thanks John) came through with a spare float or I would have been grounded all winter/spiring. In the thread above I listed pros/cons for EFI.

    I am running the second battery primarily to extend the range of my electrically dependent fuel pump and ECU power. The battery should give me an additional 45 minutes of power with the extra battery.

    I will keep posting my progress as I continue this upgrade.

    Good to hear from you Ross.

    Scott
    Scott Noble
    Kitfox SS7

  7. #7
    Administrator DesertFox4's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2008
    Location
    Arizona
    Posts
    3,569

    Default Re: After Market Fuel Injection

    Looks like a clean install Scott. I imagine you are after more horsepower with this setup. Nice looking components.


    DesertFox4
    Admin.
    7 Super Sport
    912 ULS Tri-gear


  8. #8
    Super Moderator Av8r3400's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Location
    Merrill, WI
    Posts
    3,048

    Default Re: After Market Fuel Injection

    Looking forward to a detailed performance report!
    Av8r3400
    Kitfox Model IV
    The Mangy Fox
    912UL 105hp Zipper
    YouTube Videos

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •