OMG are you serious... 6 to 7 thousand. wow! I think I can do mine for under 200 but that's me. I do all the work. wow, I can't believe that one![]()
OMG are you serious... 6 to 7 thousand. wow! I think I can do mine for under 200 but that's me. I do all the work. wow, I can't believe that one![]()
steve
slyfox
model IV 1200-flying
912uls
IVO medium in-flight
RV7A-flying
IO-360
constant speed prop
oh, one more thing, I would be learning real quick how to work on airplanes.
steve
slyfox
model IV 1200-flying
912uls
IVO medium in-flight
RV7A-flying
IO-360
constant speed prop
Yep, that's not a misprint. $6000 to $7000 for a certified aircraft with a Rotax. What's the difference? How can you do it for $200? Of course, that includes his labor rate of $65 per hour, but still...Something doesn't jive here.
Will
for one, the kitfox is NOT a certified aircraft. first I do all the work.
second all the parts can be bought at NAPA. take the hose to the radiator, that's 2" radiator hose. I just replace mine and I got a 2 foot hose and installed it with clamps. real cheap. I replaced my fuel hose last year. I think again I used 2 ft of 1/8 auto fuel injection line. forget the firesleeve that most people like to put on, the engine area only goes maybe to 180 degrees maybe less because air is going through there all the time. Also I like to keep an eye on the main hose, that firesleeve stuff hides it. oil hose, again double braided rubber transmission line works really good on this, don't know the size I use, but can be gotten. then it's just a matter of changing them out. not to bad really.
the carb, remove the bowl and inspect. leave the fuel in it and check the floats, do they float nice and even between the two. if one is bad you will know, it will sink. usually the mid range circuit is the trouble maker, you take a straight screw driver and unscrew that and chase some brake cleaner in there and watch out the inlet where the filter is and watch for it to come out then hit some air in there. done. time to go fly.
yes YOU can do all this. nothing stopping you but maybe your fear and your mechanical ability. you can log the repair and sign it off. but then again, it's best to have a local FSDO give you the latest greatest paperwork for experimentals, sorry at the moment my brain is in fade mode. My 96 model had to have them upgraded. AH! operating limitations. That's just a process of having someone in the FAA FSDO issue the newest set. at least for me.
hope this helps![]()
Last edited by Slyfox; 07-29-2015 at 04:44 PM.
steve
slyfox
model IV 1200-flying
912uls
IVO medium in-flight
RV7A-flying
IO-360
constant speed prop
I went to a flyin down in McCall Idaho one year and the FAA was there doing inspections on aircraft with NO action if they found things out of sorts. the aircraft passed ok but my operating limitations were way out of date so to speak. I think it even said in them that I couldn't do any repair as an owner. so when I got back home, I went into the FSDO, the mini FAA office at my airport. At that time the fella inside went and updated all the wording to current which gave me a lot of freedoms for doing repairs and such on the aircraft. you still have to get the annual signed off by an A&P but everything else was super cool. glad I got it done. I'm sure your limitations in this airplane is of vintage.
Operating limitations are a couple pages of things that experimentals have to go by. they also have to be in the aircraft with registration and such.
steve
slyfox
model IV 1200-flying
912uls
IVO medium in-flight
RV7A-flying
IO-360
constant speed prop
Dave not trying to undermine anything. but 1000 is, I think a little high, but then again if nothing has ever been done, then yes. possibly.
those diaphragms. like anything else, you can remove them and check very carefully for rips. the carb sockets, most likely they are damaged. but get the good ones that have the metal inside, then they will last a good long time.
Yes Dave, you could be right, 1000 dollars. if this aircraft has not been touched. but then again, lets think of all parts hanging on the motor is subject.
I found that the older fuel pump is a whole bunch better than that newer bad pump. I think it has A/C on it or something. the older one is from Germany I think. but that one will start leaking out the vent, then it's time to replace. that thing is expensive. so adding that for the 1000 yup, again you're right![]()
Last edited by Slyfox; 07-29-2015 at 04:32 PM.
steve
slyfox
model IV 1200-flying
912uls
IVO medium in-flight
RV7A-flying
IO-360
constant speed prop
Then and than are two different words and can not be substituted.![]()
Flying a series 4 speedster
Rotax 912uls whirlwind 75”
Sotexkitfox,
If we are talking about parts......a fair extimate would be in the neighborhood of $1,000. You can shop around for some things...the 1" hose for the radiator is a standard auto parts hose. Same with the heater hose if you have a heater installed. The pricy stuff where there isn't many options are things specific to Rotax like the carb diaphrams and the carb flanges. Rotax has a new fuel pump which is an improvement in that it has a drain spigot to hook to a line to divert gasoling away from the engine in the case of a diaphragm ruptures on the fuel pump...not all that pricy for the pump - about $100.
There are a couple Rotax dealers around like LEAF indicated on the sponsor's column to the left on this list and Califoirnia Power systems plus maybe a couple more a person can get price quotes....probably wouldn't save a whole lot but someRotax parts may be less expensive from one dealer to dealer. Kitfox can supply many parts.
All on all, a person should be able to get all the parts for around $1,000. Of course, others mileage may vary and I can't guarantee it's the same as the last time I got the parts.
It takes some work and care to install the parts so sweat equity can save a lot on labor.
Another thing to keep in mind....Rotax only cares about rubber parts on the engine.....they could give a rat's elbow about other system parts like the fuel line, tanks, & associated rubber parts etc which can bite one in tne tochous too if they break.
Sincerely,
Dave S
Ok, Thanks Dave.