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    Default Better check those engine mounts...

    I'm picking up my engine from the shop Saturday. I'm like an expecting father for the first time. I can't wait. So to keep busy tonight I though I would shop for new Lord mounts for the engine mounts. I thought the rubber may be getting old. I was shocked to see the rubber was the least of my worries. The inner bushing tube in the center of the mount is almost worn completely through. The mount bolts have huge washers to avoid an engine coming completely loose, but I could have a bad vibration once the bushing was gone.

    I bought this Kitfox IV used and stored for 10 years. It has 175 hours per the logs, but the engine shop said the 582 may have had 1000 hours! So, I have no idea how long it took the mounts to look like this, but I'm going to take a bolt out every year to see what's going on.
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    P.S. I'm going to change the bolts too. Anyone have the bolt size handy?

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    Thanks for the heads up. It is timely for me. I'm in the middle of doing a pretty extensive condition inspection. The engine is still off so I'll be able to check those bolts easily.
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    Now I'm having a hard time figuring out what mount I need to buy. The one in the LEAF catalog looks right, but it is not thick enough. I need to get the spec sheets from LORD and see what I have.

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    Default Re: Better check those engine mounts...

    Do they look like these? This is a 503 so maybe not.
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    Yes, they look like the same mount.
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    Default Re: Better check those engine mounts...

    The Kitfox part number is 47001. The bolts are AN5-23.

    The manual instructs to drill or ream the center bushing to .3125 (5/16) to fit the AN 5 bolt. You have to be careful not to heat the mount up so go slow and use some water to cool it while drilling.

    I wonder if the builder damaged yours when drilling them? There shouldn't be any movement between the bolt and bushing if torqued down. An AN 5 bolt torque is 100-140 inch pounds.
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    Default Re: Better check those engine mounts...

    The Lord mounts on my 582 side mount are part 150PD-30.
    Engineering Data:
    http://rubberpartscatalog.com/home/p...amond/150PD-30

    L.E.A.F. catalog listing:
    http://store.leadingedgeairfoils.com...oducts_id=7593
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    Thanks for the info guys. TJ, I don't know what to think. I got the engine back today and at least the one other mount I looked at had the same off center wear. And what is really weird it that the wear is on the forward side of the hole. I would expect the thrust would be wearing the aft side. Anyway, I'm changing them all. And I appreciate the tip on reaming to size.
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    Default Re: Better check those engine mounts...

    [quote=t j;46970]The Kitfox part number is 47001. The bolts are AN5-23.

    Hi TJ. I measured my bolts and it looks like they are AN5-30 as the grip length is about 2-1/2". So I'm not too sure the Lord mount is correct.

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    Default Re: Better check those engine mounts...

    Quote Originally Posted by Av8r_Sed View Post
    The Lord mounts on my 582 side mount are part 150PD-30.
    Engineering Data:
    http://rubberpartscatalog.com/home/p...amond/150PD-30

    L.E.A.F. catalog listing:
    http://store.leadingedgeairfoils.com...oducts_id=7593
    Thanks Paul. The specs on the LEAF mount show the center bushing length at .88". Mine is 1.12 " like the four hole one. The Rubber Parts listing looks correct, but it has a typo on the thickness. They show .12" equals 28mm!! At least the 28mm spec fits! Maybe that's they way to go. Should I see what Wick's has to offer?!?!

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