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    Default Re: Paper chart vs iPad for VFR

    Jeff, I assume you have a subscription service? What is the cost vs. the Foreflight update every year? All I would need is sectionals.

    P.S. If you every come south to Indy, please drop in at my place. I'm on the Indianapolis inset of the St Louis sectional. Newby Landing.

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    I subscribe through Sport's Pilot shop, the cost is reasonable, and they
    always arrive on time. When I used to fly IFR I used Jeppesen since I like
    their approach plates, and enroute charts. I only fly VFR these days so
    I only use sectionals now. I use the terminal area chart quite a bit since
    I'm just outside the O'Hare Class B (I'm at DeKalb Taylor KDKB). It's on my
    kneeboard all the time for local flights.

    Jeff

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    My paper chart subscription is through mypilotstore. A little discount, but then I don't get entered in Sporty's drawing each time the charts are issued. http://www.mypilotstore.com/MyPilotS...nal_Charts.asp
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    Default Re: Paper chart vs iPad for VFR

    Here is the price comparison some of you asked for.

    My pilot store prices. Site unclear if these include discount for subscription although that is what I clicked. They stated free shipping. Sporty's was more expensive but could not find a published subscription price.

    Sectional 7.50 x 2 per year = $15
    TerminalArea Chart 5.05 x 2 per year = $10.10
    AFD 4.60 x 6 per year = $27.60

    Total $52.70 per year to cover one region including one TAC.

    Foreflight, Garmin, Wing X etc cover all of the above for the entire US for $74.99. Instrument charts included if you are into that. All have free trial period. Avare which I have not tried is altogether free. Worth a try if you have a Droid. I suspect you get bells and whistles with a pay app like Foreflight etc. I have no financial interest in any of these products but Foreflight has worked great for me.
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    Skyvector for flight planning is worth a try. It is web based, so will work on anything. Pretty intuitive and shows weather stations with potential area's to avoid in different color dots, shows current fuel prices and also shows all TFR's. It's totally free.

    Avare which I have not tried is altogether free. Worth a try if you have a Droid. I suspect you get bells and whistles with a pay app.
    Avare does not have a paying app, it is totally open source. I've been playing with it on the ground and considering it as a backup. It has somewhat of a learning curve (what doesn't) but seems pretty good for a free app and current charts.

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    Thanks guys. Boy for $15 a year you can't beat paper can you? Back when I was current, there were no computers, much less iPads with charts on them. I worked at an FBO where I could walk up to the front office and buy the current chart. Try that these days!

    I need to start over on my navigation skills, so for now it's going to be paper and plotter. But I have the iPad with GPS, so I may pay for so app in the future. I'm glad I started another good discussion on the forums. Seems like I hit a nerve once in a while and everyone chimes in. That's what makes this group so much fun!
    Thanks,
    Jay

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    Makes sense for us. For one area it is about $80 a year for VNC's and VTA's that pays for half my Foreflight subscription right there not to mention CFS(4 times a year at $20), CAPGEN, and the charts for every other area in Canada.

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    Default Re: Paper chart vs iPad for VFR

    Pick up a copy of "Air Navigation" from P.V.H Weems, it was the standard
    for Navigation leading into WWII and has a LOT of good info about dead
    reckoning, wind triangles, etc. NOT very likely but if you get into celestial
    nav it is in there also. Used copies on Ebay can be found pretty cheap. A
    very interesting book, with a lot of great info. The one I have is dated I
    think 1938. Hard to imagine, but a lot of them were far better navigators
    than any of us back in those days.

    Jeff

    Quote Originally Posted by beeryboats View Post
    Thanks guys. Boy for $15 a year you can't beat paper can you? Back when I was current, there were no computers, much less iPads with charts on them. I worked at an FBO where I could walk up to the front office and buy the current chart. Try that these days!

    I need to start over on my navigation skills, so for now it's going to be paper and plotter. But I have the iPad with GPS, so I may pay for so app in the future. I'm glad I started another good discussion on the forums. Seems like I hit a nerve once in a while and everyone chimes in. That's what makes this group so much fun!
    Thanks,
    Jay

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    NOT very likely but if you get into celestial
    nav it is in there also.

    What's so unusual about celestial navigation?
    I used it all over the Pacific (both hemispheres) in the late '60s.
    I relied on it to verify LORAN
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    Default Re: Paper chart vs iPad for VFR

    I have a bunch of old Navigation manuals (USAF, etc) in PDF form I have
    collected off the Web, if anybody is interested send me a private message
    and I'll give you a link where they can be downloaded. Also some good
    stuff for using the E6B, etc. Plot sheets, Compass adjustment, etc. Not
    much for the GPS fans though ...

    Jeff

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