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    Default Horizontal Tail interference with Rear Stab Pivot Mount

    Hi everyone!
    I've installed the bushings and bearings in the HT and test installed it to the fuselage. I can't get the nose of the HT to go down as much as I've seen in other postings, and it doesn't go down enough to meet the trim jackscrew when fully retracted. The stab hinge mount interferes with the pivot mount. I've removed all the powdercoat. It looks like I need to either grind down the welds on the hinge mount, or grind out some clearance on the square pivot mount bracket. I've searched the forum for this problem but haven't found any posts mentioning this problem. Has anyone encountered this? Any suggestions? See pictures below.
    Thanks.

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    Greg Anderson
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    Default Re: Horizontal Tail interference with Rear Stab Pivot Mount

    Hard to tell from the images what you're saying. Can you post some images that are marked up maybe
    showing the interference? I see the lower image where the powder coat is ground away, but not really
    understanding the problem? In general grinding away the part interfering with the weld is the better
    idea. You really don't want to grind away welds.

    Guess the Tinman Tech Guru (welding website) doesn't call MIG Goose Poop welding without good reason ...

    Jeff
    Last edited by n85ae; 04-04-2021 at 08:57 AM.

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    Default Re: Horizontal Tail interference with Rear Stab Pivot Mount

    Quote Originally Posted by n85ae View Post
    Hard to tell from the images what you're saying. Can you post some images that are marked up maybe
    showing the interference? I see the lower image where the powder coat is ground away, but not really
    understanding the problem? In general grinding away the part interfering with the weld is the better
    idea. You really don't want to grind away welds.

    Guess the Tinman Tech Guru (welding website) doesn't call MIG Goose Poop welding without good reason ...

    Jeff
    Hi Jeff,
    The interference is circled in red.

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    As the nose goes down, the tube contacts the fitting because the weld bulges out a bit.


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    Yeah, I didn't want to grind weld and weaken the joint, but I'm worried about putting a weak spot on the fitting as well.

    I decided to email John McB directly as well to get an official opinion, since it looks like this hasn't been addressed before.
    Greg Anderson
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    Richland, WA

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    Default Re: Horizontal Tail interference with Rear Stab Pivot Mount

    its a common issue. You just need to remove a bit of material from the bracket to allow it to fit. Mine did the same thing.
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    Default Re: Horizontal Tail interference with Rear Stab Pivot Mount

    yeah grinding the bracket seems logical, you have plenty of material to work with

    Jeff

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    Thanks for the replies guys. I couldn't find anything on this problem so it's good to hear others have faced this. Misery loves company! I'll gradually take off some from the bracket till it clears and make sure it's a smooth transition. I'll post a some pictures when it's done for future reference.
    Greg Anderson
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    Default Re: Horizontal Tail interference with Rear Stab Pivot Mount

    OK, finished the trim to stop the binding. I trimmed 0.030" on the starboard side and 0.025" on the port. Used a Dremel sanding wheel and cleaned up with 400 grit sandpaper. Per AC 43-13 1B, Par. 6-115 c, blended the trim at 20:1.
    (Dang! Took me 20 minutes to get the pictures right! )

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    Richland, WA

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    Default Re: Horizontal Tail interference with Rear Stab Pivot Mount

    Thanks forum!! DenaliFox's comment that this is a common issue caught my attention. In preparing for the flight to Sun-n-Fun (assuming the weather god's allow) I thought: "Why not check for this condition?". It turns out that I hadn't detected the itsy, bitsy, just-barely-makes-contact condition during assembly but it was there none-the-less. I've scheduled very minor surgery for tomorrow morning.

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