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    The solution from Foreflight I was given, was to run the Apple device in "Airplane Mode" and then
    connect to the wifi. This is supposed to turn off the hunting.
    Jeff, Thanks for posting this. I have this happen often while over Phoenix. I'll give it a try.


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    If you're willing to do a little setup shenanigans, you can eliminate this problem in Apple devices. Unlike Windows computers, iOS doesn't allow users to see or edit the list of Wi-Fi networks that it has connected to in the past, nor can you globally turn off automatically joining known networks. You can, however, completely reset the list of known networks, so it won't try to join the Wi-Fi at every McDonalds or Starbucks you fly over.

    Here's how:

    1. Be sure you know the SSID and password for the WiFi network(s) you want the device to connect to (home and office Wi-Fi, EFIS, ADS-B unit, etc.), as you'll need to reenter them later.

    2. Go to Settings > General > Reset > Reset Network Settings to delete the list of known networks.

    3. Go to Settings > Wi-Fi and scroll to the bottom. Ensure that "Ask to Join Networks" is turned off.

    4. Still in Settings > Wi-Fi, reconnect to your desired Wi-Fi network. You'll need to reestablish the connection to each network you use regularly.


    There are two ways to prevent this problem from reoccurring, and both require some diligence to remember, as both must be done while the network is within range of the device.

    Method 1: Change the setting for automatic connection. In Settings > Wi-Fi, find the network you want to prevent from connecting automatically in the list of available networks. Tap the blue "i" in a circle to the right of the network name. Turn "Auto-join" off. This method preserves any password that's required to join the network, but stops automatic connection.

    Method 2: Make the device forget the network. In Settings > Wi-Fi, find the network you want to forget (probably the one your device is connected to, at the top, with a blue check-mark to the left). Tap the blue "i" in a circle to the right of the network name. Tap "Forget This Network." This method deletes the network from memory entirely.
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    Ok, being the discussion has turned to WiFi I have a question.

    I control my Go Pro via it’s WiFi, but I also use WiFi to get info from my Sentry for ForeFlight. Here is the problem, can’t do both at the same time. Any suggestions?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Utah-Jay View Post
    Ok, being the discussion has turned to WiFi I have a question.

    I control my Go Pro via it’s WiFi, but I also use WiFi to get info from my Sentry for ForeFlight. Here is the problem, can’t do both at the same time. Any suggestions?
    I use my phone to control the GoPro and my iPad for ADSB via Foreflight. You can't use one to control both.
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    Hey Eric, thanks for this post.

    As I understand it - Apple Location Services uses it, and despite turning off wifi that simply makes it not
    grab an ip, etc. BUT it is still connecting to networks. So you may be able to make it stick to a network
    you cannot make it stop continuously connecting to others.

    So while wifi is turned off, or setting are cleared, it's not really turned off. The one setting that is
    supposed to stop this madness is 'airplane mode'

    I am not an expert by any means, but I have had ongoing problems with both my iphone, and ipad with
    uAvionix ADS-B and I opened trouble calls with both Foreflight, and uAvionix - Both of which blamed
    Apple and their way location services works.

    I flew with Avare, and iFly GPS on Android, and experienced none of the disconnects, which led me to
    start opening support calls for the Apple devices.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric Page View Post
    If you're willing to do a little setup shenanigans, you can eliminate this problem in Apple devices. Unlike Windows computers, iOS doesn't allow users to see or edit the list of Wi-Fi networks that it has connected to in the past, nor can you globally turn off automatically joining known networks. You can, however, completely reset the list of known networks, so it won't try to join the Wi-Fi at every McDonalds or Starbucks you fly over.

    Here's how:

    1. Be sure you know the SSID and password for the WiFi network(s) you want the device to connect to (home and office Wi-Fi, EFIS, ADS-B unit, etc.), as you'll need to reenter them later.

    2. Go to Settings > General > Reset > Reset Network Settings to delete the list of known networks.

    3. Go to Settings > Wi-Fi and scroll to the bottom. Ensure that "Ask to Join Networks" is turned off.

    4. Still in Settings > Wi-Fi, reconnect to your desired Wi-Fi network. You'll need to reestablish the connection to each network you use regularly.


    There are two ways to prevent this problem from reoccurring, and both require some diligence to remember, as both must be done while the network is within range of the device.

    Method 1: Change the setting for automatic connection. In Settings > Wi-Fi, find the network you want to prevent from connecting automatically in the list of available networks. Tap the blue "i" in a circle to the right of the network name. Turn "Auto-join" off. This method preserves any password that's required to join the network, but stops automatic connection.

    Method 2: Make the device forget the network. In Settings > Wi-Fi, find the network you want to forget (probably the one your device is connected to, at the top, with a blue check-mark to the left). Tap the blue "i" in a circle to the right of the network name. Tap "Forget This Network." This method deletes the network from memory entirely.

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    Don't quote me on this -- I don't own a GoPro -- but a little searching online suggests that some GoPro models can be controlled using the GoPro app via Bluetooth instead of Wi-Fi...
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    I'm talking about uAvionix ADS-B with Foreflight, not GoPro

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    I’ve never noticed that problem with FlyQ (Seattle Avionics) on my iPad and uAvionix ADS-B. The uAvionics Echo feeds weather and traffic to both my iPad and my iFly 740 simultaneously without any apparent problem. Is it possibly a ForeFlight issue? GoPro uses Bluetooth & WiFi. I use Bluetooth to control it with my phone. The latest app defaults to Bluetooth for that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric Page View Post
    Don't quote me on this -- I don't own a GoPro -- but a little searching online suggests that some GoPro models can be controlled using the GoPro app via Bluetooth instead of Wi-Fi...
    Thanks, I have the app and once the Sentry connected the go pro was disconnected. I will investigate the Bluetooth/GoPro thing tho.

    Thanks

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    I did read that Foreflight had made some code changes, but both Foreflight and uAvionix pointed at
    Apple when I opened support ticket. In any case, it was a known issue. This was almost a year ago now.
    There is probably a workaround in code for it.

    I used to run a homebrew Stratux and the uAvionix at the same time, and link my iphone or ipad
    to the Stratux. However that has it's own set of problems (like not seeing towers) so lately I only
    connect to the uAvionix. I haven't had the problem as much as I used to so I suspect they have made
    some changes (Foreflight that is)

    Quote Originally Posted by jrevens View Post
    I’ve never noticed that problem with FlyQ (Seattle Avionics) on my iPad and uAvionix ADS-B. The uAvionics Echo feeds weather and traffic to both my iPad and my iFly 740 simultaneously without any apparent problem. Is it possibly a ForeFlight issue? GoPro uses Bluetooth & WiFi. I use Bluetooth to control it with my phone. The latest app defaults to Bluetooth for that.

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