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    You're not going to believe this, but I got sidetracked from the project for a few weeks.

    I had to get ~6,500 sq ft of landscaping done before the fall rains began and turned the place into a mud hole. I put ~130 plants in the ground, spread 30 cu yds of bark mulch, laid 137 ft of edging brick, excavated a walkway, back-filled and compacted it with 3/4-minus gravel, then topped it with 30 bags of marble chips. It wore me out!

    With that done, I finally got back to the Kitfox, but I did a little more shop preparation first. I cleaned out my garage and moved a bunch of auto and power equipment supplies onto some empty shelves in a spare bedroom closet. That cleared a shelving unit in the garage to get airplane parts off the floor. I also moved bulky airplane parts (tail sections, landing gear, windshield, cowling halves, etc.) into the spare bedroom for storage (being a single guy has one or two advantages...).

    Next I built a workbench to hold a 6" vise and bench grinder that I got for a song at an industrial auction, as well as a new drill press and disc/belt sander (cheapie Chinese, but surprisingly well built). The bench is made from 2x4s held together with Simpson Strong-Tie brackets, which produced a remarkably solid frame. The top is a layer of 3/4" particle board and a layer of 3/4" melamine; the lower shelf is just melamine. I bolted the tools down so they don't walk around, and mounted a box with 4-way receptacle under the top to plug the tools into. An old extension cord with the female end chopped off lets me plug in the whole table. Finally, I put retractable caster wheels (from Amazon) on the legs so it can be rolled around, but sits solidly when in use.

    [Note, if you're in the market for a disc/belt sander: apart from some plastic parts being orange instead of green, the WEN sander that I bought is identical to the Ryobi unit sold at Home Depot, but is ~$50 cheaper on Amazon.]

    With that done, I used some rough-cut lumber that I got free from a friend in the timber business to build wing rotisseries. They're loosely based on the EAA design I posted recently, except I didn't like the widely spaced legs (they looked like a tripping hazard), so mine have a single, central leg. I also didn't see the point of using cable stays to brace the upright, so I used scrap pieces of melamine from the workbench to make gussets instead. My upright posts are 4x4s fabricated from two 2x4s and a piece of 1/2" plywood sandwiched together. I like the EAA design's pivot system, so I'll stick with that. The rotisseries aren't 100% done, as I'm not ready to mount a wing yet; I'll finish them when I do that.

    Finally, some progress on airplane parts: I used the new drill press and a #30 drill to remove all of the rivets from the rudder torque tubes. Unsurprisingly, I found that two of the four plastic bushings are unusable due to the first builder ruining them. With the tubes apart, I used a wire wheel and wire cup to remove powder coat from the tube parts in preparation for welding on gussets. I still need to get the tail wheel mount down to bare metal but I'm still on the fence about how to proceed, since the bottom rear half-rib is already bonded in, as is the fiberglass rudder post fairing.

    I also spent an hour or so getting one of the brake calipers cleaned up. Fortunately, it looks (and feels) like the cylinder bores cleaned up well enough to make a seal with new o-rings on the pistons. The outside of the caliper bodies are pretty badly pitted, but I think they can be rescued with some chemical cleaning, followed by body filler and silver paint. Perhaps I'll send them to be powder coated, for the sake of durability. TBD...

    Today I went up to Tacoma to see Alex's "Project 5" (he's doing very nice work, and coming up with some neat ways to do things), then we both went to visit with Nate to see the AeroMomentum AM15 (117hp) installation in his SS7. I was leaning in that direction before the visit, and I was pretty impressed with what I saw. The engine looks very well put together, and Nate sounds happy with it after ~22 hours of flying.

    Nate is the Kitfox beta tester for the AM15, and he's only had a couple of small problems. One was a failed radiator that was attributed to the mounting method, but AeroMomentum provided him with an aluminum cage to mount the replacement, and that feels very solid. The second failure was the loss of a tooth on the crank position sensor reluctor. AeroMomentum said they had never seen one fail before and suspected that the part may have been dropped at some point before installation in Nate's engine. They sent him a new one at no cost. Nate said he's had good support from the factory and joked that if he had called them right then (a Sunday afternoon), they would have answered. Performance-wise, Nate said he's seeing ~2,000 fpm initial climb with his 3-blade Luga pitched at 15.5°.

    Alright, time for dinner then back to work!
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    Top notch result on the rotisserie and bench! Mine works well but falls way short in the "looks" dept. Lol. I made mine from the "possible's pile" of metal, lumber and such in back of the shop. Also known as the junk yard.

    Nice find on the bushings and getting the brakes cleaned up!
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    Looking good! Good idea on gusseting those rudder pedals!
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    I'm envious of that bench. If I had it in my garage I would have to push my plane outside. I have used my drill press a few times and have had a bench grinder on my list, but have used my Milwaukee 12V angle and straight grinders (several times per day actually) and find them indispensable for cutting, shaping, deburring, etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bbs428 View Post
    Top notch result on the rotisserie and bench! Mine works well but falls way short in the "looks" dept. Lol. I made mine from the "possible's pile" of metal, lumber and such in back of the shop. Also known as the junk yard.
    Yeah, that's pretty much what mine was made from. The lumber was useless for anything else and had been cluttering up my garage since the house was finished over a year ago. I had three sticks left that I cut into pieces and gave to my next door neighbor for his fire pit!

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    I'm envious of that bench. If I had it in my garage I would have to push my plane outside. I have used my drill press a few times and have had a bench grinder on my list, but have used my Milwaukee 12V angle and straight grinders (several times per day actually) and find them indispensable for cutting, shaping, deburring, etc.
    The drill press was really handy for removing the powder coat. I just put a small wire wheel in the chuck and that let me use both hands to control the parts; much easier than holding the part in one hand and a drill in the other. I haven't found a use for my angle grinder yet (apart from building the tube straightener), but I did buy a finger sander, which I figured would be handy for cleaning up the plates where the rudder torque tubes mount.
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    With the last of this year's landscaping done, I'm finally going to be concentrating on the Kitfox. Here's the latest progress.

    Fairing Removed.jpg

    I used an oscillating tool to slice the outer edges of the tail post fairing about 4" above the tail wheel mounting plate, then it just peeled off of the Scotch Weld with surprising ease. That gets it out of the way for the tail reinforcement, and it can even be re-used (which saved me $60+ for a new one).

    Power File.jpg Tail 01.jpg Tail 02.jpg

    With that done, I busted up and removed the bottom rib in the tail. I really only needed to remove the rear half, but the forward half was glued in crooked, and since I have a new rib on order, I'll have material to replace it, so it might was well come out. Once the fairing and rib were out, I used a power file to remove powder coat from the area around and above the tail wheel mounting plate, so a reinforcing gusset can be welded on. If you don't own a power file, I can highly recommend it. It fits in tight spaces, it's easy to control, and it makes short work of paint and corrosion.

    Rudder Bracket Plates.jpg

    The last sanding job on the frame was to remove powder coat from the rudder torque tube bracket mounting plates in the forward fuselage. The holes drilled by the first builder weren't quite in the right place, which may have been a contributor to the rudder pedals being very difficult to move. So, I'm going to have the holes plug welded, and I'll drill them again when I get to reassembly. You can't tell from this photo, but the powder coat is removed on the underside as well. That's where the power file was a Godsend; the tip of it fit into the U-channel with about 1/8" to spare, so each plate took about 30-40 seconds to clean up. That power file is becoming my favorite tool.

    Caliper Before.jpg Caliper After.jpg

    You may remember that my brake calipers were in quite a state. Using both the power file and my 4x36 belt sander, I was able to remove virtually all of the corrosion and pitting on the calipers, leaving a bright, shiny surface, ready for a new coating. I'll probably Alodine them to start with, and eventually paint them to match the overall color scheme.

    By carefully scrubbing the calipers' cylinder bores with a maroon Scotchbrite pad, I was able to remove all of the roughness left by the old o-rings. There's still some black staining on the aluminum but the bores are nice and smooth, so I think they'll make a good seal with new o-rings on the pistons. That's a huge relief, and I'm keeping my fingers crossed, because replacements are very expensive. Plus, I've got a lot of time into them now!

    Finally, I spent about an hour getting my wing rotisseries closer to finished. The first builder had fabricated some PVC tees to mount the wings, which I cut apart to scavenge several ~12" pieces of 2" Sch 40 pipe. I also cut two 36" pieces of 2x4 and bored three holes in each to receive the PVC pipes. Those will be the rotating assembly. The holes need a little sanding to fit the pipes, so I'm waiting on a kit of sanding drums from Amazon. I should be able to get the rotisseries done in another hour or so, then I'll finally be able to start stripping the wings.

    It looks like my adaptation of the EAA rotisserie design that I posted a few weeks ago should work well. I'll be able to lock the wing in any position by tightening an iron pipe cap. Hard to explain, but I'll post photos when it's done.
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    I do have an inspection cover on the other side, but I have never cut them out; they are for if I ever have to remove/reinstall the trim jackscrew.
    I reach the front tailwheel spring nut by coming down from above and using "every socket extension". Actually it is very easy; I can even get a torque wrench on it.
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    I did just that at 25hrs. I put a T3 on. I just used a ratchet in my hand and reached down through the horizontal passthrough and held the bolt. Of course the elevator has to be trimmed all the way up. I did consider putting an access hole in but decided it just wasn't necessary. Even as easy is that task would be with Oratex as I have, I chose to keep it clean.
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    Mine looks like Jims, only in Oratex.
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    See, Alex? These guys are great!
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