operating a 912ul on ethanol

[sdemeyer]

Chuck, my neighbors are all bummed out about the Fones RD station. They used to get 87 from them. I guess they just put the stickers on recently. I always use 92 in my KF and have always gotten it from the Chevron station. That's a nice looking fox your friend has. I'm out your way frequently. I thought I saw a KF today flying around just east of Flying B. Was that you?

You can sneak in and out of Hoskins without talking to Oly but I usually talk to the tower and let them know my intentions. Technically, we are within their airspace. I just tell them if I'm leaving or arriving.

We get a fair amount of transient traffic here and your more than welcome to drop in anytime. Usually most takeoff to the west and land to the east if possible. I'm about 1/2 way down, the hangar with the backhoe parked in front.

Scott

[cap01]

scott , could have been us returning from bremerton probably around 1400 or a little later . 40kf is white with red wing tips and rudder . i did see a yellow plane heading east on the east side of flying b . the green speedster turned out really nice , only thing is its really hard to see air to air . when ever we go anyplace he usually follows me since i loose sight of him pretty quick even with strobes on . i accumulated a few hours in the green one and made 10-15 landings in it before the first flight of 40kf . really help to make the first flight uneventful .
well have to drop in sometime when we get a good day
thanks
chuck pierce
40kf
yelm, wa

[Pilot4Life]

Scott and Chuck,
I checked for pics of 40kf and, to my disappointment, I found none. I'm sure you both are proud of your airplanes and we'd all like to see them if you could post some pics. Yeah, I know, I've yet to build mine but ... I still like to drool over other Kitfox's until the rest of us on this site can get ours built! Thanks guys! Oh, by the way...Ever been to the good side of Washington? I grew up in Wenatchee, raised, graduated High School, and enlisted in the Marine Corps there. Since have moved all over the US and now in Tx and I'm flying helicopters, for now!! Anyhow...let's see some photos, yeah?

Chris

[Slyfox]

I love Wenatchee. I fly in there all the time and take the car and go in for breakfast.

[cap01]

chris , naturally i have lots of pic and would be happy to share . pretty new to this site and havent figured out how to post them . 40kf was purchased in 1991 and has had three previous owners . when i acquired her she had been covered and painted and grove gear installed . everything else needed to be done , engine installed , panel and wiring and the like . i have gained a great respect for the guys that complete a kit from the begining . as it was it took a good year to complete 40kf and i had to get the mindset that it was like a job . if you dont put your time in , you dont get paid . it is really nice to have a site like this with people that are happy to share thier knowledge and experiences and are interested in what your doing
have fun with the choppers
chuck pierce
40kf
yelm, wa

[SkyPirate]

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i have gained a great respect for the guys that complete a kit from the begining . as it was it took a good year to complete 40kf and i had to get the mindset that it was like a job .
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Try building one from scratch
I started my project on dec 5th ..the fuselage is all welded together and on wheels ,..just got minor pieces to put on to complete it ..the wing material will be here next tuesday ,..should have the wings on by next week end .
I'm averaging 3 hours a day working on it.
Chase

[Slyfox]

I did just that, built my Rv on a standard build, took me 2.5 years. I rebuilt the kitfox and changed out one tank rebuilt a complete wing and shortened one. Recovered the whole airplane, took 5 months.

Anyway, back to original post. I run my 912s on alki fuel but I really wish they would knock out the lead in the current fuel for aircraft, what this will do is lower the 100 octane to a lower number, but most aircraft can take this, if this is done, my IO360 will love it, I will love it. For one the deposites in my lyc will be less and my rotax can run on it without problems. For me this would be a great thing.

[Paul Z]

Well, I went out started the engine, taxied down for fuel, filled it up, and taxied back to the hanger. Stopped and ran up the engine. Checked the Left and right ignitions. Idle was great at 2300 RPM, a little high but definitely idled well. At the recommendation of John McBean I did a whole lot of Taxing. I Taxied back to the hanger, and set the RPM a little lower. I set it at 2500 RPM and turned off the fuel and allowed it to die. Then I took a .002, .0025, .003, .004, and finally a .005 feeler gauge between the set screw and the stop. Now I have it idling at 2000 RPM. Personally, had the winds not been so bad, I would have gone flying the pattern, so I guess it is good that the winds kept me on the ground. Now to wait for some nice sunny day, with winds under 35 MPH, and we are going flying!

[Slyfox]

Well, I went out started the engine, taxied down for fuel, filled it up, and taxied back to the hanger. Stopped and ran up the engine. Checked the Left and right ignitions. Idle was great at 2300 RPM, a little high but definitely idled well. At the recommendation of John McBean I did a whole lot of Taxing. I Taxied back to the hanger, and set the RPM a little lower. I set it at 2500 RPM and turned off the fuel and allowed it to die. Then I took a .002, .0025, .003, .004, and finally a .005 feeler gauge between the set screw and the stop. Now I have it idling at 2000 RPM. Personally, had the winds not been so bad, I would have gone flying the pattern, so I guess it is good that the winds kept me on the ground. Now to wait for some nice sunny day, with winds under 35 MPH, and we are going flying!

now get the idle to at least 1800 and you will be able to land it.

[Slyfox]

one more thing, how do you know the rpm is correct. Find one of those units that you point at the prop and check the rpm. You might be supprised at the results. Once you know that, set the idle to no faster than 1800, why you'll float down the runway with too high idle. nothing worse than on touch down saying to yourself, wooooo silver.