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DesertFox4
08-14-2018, 07:39 AM
Very often we see the same question posed on TeamKitfox.com. Where can I get Kitfox specific training or the big one, where can I get 10 hours of training in a Kitfox like I bought or built for insurance company requirements?
The very best flight school in the U.S.A. and dare I say the World is located in Idaho only a couple minutes from the Kitfox Aircraft Factory.

Stick & Rudder Aviation is the premier Kitfox specific training school. They are also a supporting sponsor of TeamKitfox.com. Their website is easily found by clicking on their TeamKitfox.com advert on the left side of every page you visit while on these forums.

Stick & Rudder has attracted pilots from all over the United States and many countries around the world for in depth and enjoyable Kitfox specific training in one of the most scenic locations this planet has to offer. No wonder so many folks make the investment to train with Paul Leadabrand and Stick & Rudder Aviation.

Take a moment to watch or rewatch this video and see why Old school is Still cool when it comes to flight training.
Thanks Paul for supporting our website and for providing our members with the very best training available anywhere.



Old school is Still cool.
(https://youtu.be/QxmZMV52-9k)

Ramos
08-14-2018, 09:29 AM
Well put, DF4. I have not been through Stick and Rudder yet. That being said, choosing them is not even up for debate in my mind. A couple of emails and a phone conversation with Paul was all I needed to know that S&R is something pretty darn special. Of course, I have the luxury of them being an easy days drive away from me. Still, I have yet to hear of anything truly comparable being offered anywhere else. At least nothing with the word of mouth reputation that Paul and his team have earned.

Abender
08-14-2018, 09:48 AM
I just completed 10 hours with a CFI in Ellenville NY. Fly with Kate is the name of her business and I would highly recommend her.

HighWing
08-14-2018, 09:50 AM
I flew with Paul for the necessary BFR sign off before flying my newly finished Model IV. What I liked best and will forever remember is the sit down before the flying started. It was all about me and what I wanted to focus on - Typical non towered airports, improved, but not necessarily paved strips - short field, that sort of stuff. I never felt that he was trying to enhance the training for "His" benefit. Would I recommend him to a friend? Without hesitation!

efwd
08-14-2018, 03:49 PM
I flew with Paul for the necessary BFR sign off before flying my newly finished Model IV. What I liked best and will forever remember is the sit down before the flying started. It was all about me and what I wanted to focus on - Typical non towered airports, improved, but not necessarily paved strips - short field, that sort of stuff. I never felt that he was trying to enhance the training for "His" benefit. Would I recommend him to a friend? Without hesitation!
Absolutely concur with you Lowell.

David47
08-14-2018, 07:11 PM
Did Kitfox familiarisation training plus a bit of back country flying with Paul this last July. I concur with everything DF4 has said, and then some. Paul made my intro to the KF a really good experience. Highly recommend S&R for anything Kitfox flying related.

jmodguy
08-14-2018, 07:37 PM
So what does 10 hrs of 'fox time cost at S&R?? :confused:

rv9ralph
08-14-2018, 07:43 PM
I don't want to sound snarky... but, if you go to Stick & Rudder's website, by clicking the ad right next to this post, you will be able to see their pricing.

Ralph

littlecricket
08-15-2018, 06:36 AM
I wanted to go with stick and rudder, but I called in June and had nothing till November...

aviator79
08-15-2018, 06:38 AM
I wanted to go with stick and rudder, but I called in June and had nothing till November...

That is the downside of going with the best in the business. Theyhave no shortage of business. Also, in November, the backcountry isn't an option.

jmodguy
08-15-2018, 06:59 AM
I don't want to sound snarky... but, if you go to Stick & Rudder's website, by clicking the ad right next to this post, you will be able to see their pricing.

Ralph

Snark away Ralph!
I stubled over to their site and fell onto their pricing page.
Looks like a bit over a couple AMU’s plus expenses for 10 hrs. So 3-4 AMU’s roughly. 😮
Weather dependent, it could stretch out a while...
Anyone else in the country do “type ratings” for kitfox? 😃

DesertFox4
08-15-2018, 08:29 AM
Back country training is of course dependent on the back country strips being open by Mother Nature's schedule. Getting training for an upcoming first flight of a newly completed Kitfox is another matter. That might be scheduled easier than back country training.

Esser
08-15-2018, 09:37 AM
If you haven’t seen it yet, this sums up Stick and Rudder including lodge stays.

Our trip in May.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=F5VOoCT3gPc

Ramos
08-15-2018, 09:53 AM
Josh, if that video does not convince folks, nothing will!!! Great, great job there, Mister. It did seem like you were driving a little fast on the highway in the beginning, though.... :D

Hockeystud87
08-16-2018, 04:05 PM
I would love to get into the stick N rudder school but It seems about $2k to get in there and out with about 5-10 hours of time in their aircraft. Kind of rough when I have a IV I can fly for $20/hr.

I would really be tempted if I could fly my fox to them and train in it. Just got to cross the hurdle of being able to get insured in my Fox as a 0 time guy... Really tough.

littlecricket
08-16-2018, 04:21 PM
I wanted to go with stick and rudder, but I called in June and had nothing till November...

Btw, I ended up getting my tailwheel endorsement from John Halterman recommended by Paul. I believe he was trained by Paul as well. Located in North Texas.

http://www.halt-av.com/aircraft-rentals.html

efwd
08-16-2018, 05:28 PM
Hockeystud, S&R state that they will bring plane to you. That would suggest that they might consider coming to you without the plane and teach you in yours. Instead of paying for your lodging food and travel costs while at S&R you would just pay the instructors expenses as if they were yours. And you get to sleep in your own bed. Give Paul a call.

avidflyer
08-16-2018, 07:44 PM
You could also put your plane on a trailer and haul it to them if there is a place to keep it there while you train in it?? We all like to save some money, but just think of how much it will cost to repair something if you mess up. JImChuk