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fuzzypilot
08-16-2017, 10:30 AM
Need to buy tires for my project 4/1200. Anybody have any thoughts on 22-8.00x8 6ply? Several of the guys out here use 6.50x8, but I think I want something bigger without going to 27's or using ATV tires. Comments?

jiott
08-16-2017, 11:14 AM
Use the Desser 22x8.5x6 4-ply; light, smooth, reasonably big, and inexpensive.

avidflyer
08-16-2017, 12:11 PM
He has 8" rims I believe.... I just recently got a set of Nancos 21/12/8 off of ebay for $49 each with free shipping. Just looked, this is a better deal than I got, if I'm reading it right. JImChuk
http://www.ebay.com/itm/2-NEW-Nanco-N800-Slick-21X12-00-8-A-2PR-/222146015076?hash=item33b8ef2f64:g:pUAAAOSwIgNXtgy f&vxp=mtr

efwd
08-16-2017, 03:29 PM
Does anybody else find Desser's web site rather miserable to shop from. They don't list that 22" tire if you shop by size. Kitfox's aren't in there list of aircraft. You have to select Piper aircraft if you look up J3's. They don't list smooth tires. What a pain. Do you have a specific suggestion to see these 22" tires?

jiott
08-16-2017, 03:38 PM
Put in "aero classic tundra" in the Desser site search box and they will come right up.

efwd
08-16-2017, 03:44 PM
That works. Thanks Jim

cubtractor
08-16-2017, 04:07 PM
I'm using the Desser 22". They work great.

avidflyer
08-16-2017, 04:44 PM
Mike, maybe you can tell us the performance specs of your set up on the post I made about the Kitfox 4 on barnstormers that has a Jabiru engine. JImChuk

cubtractor
08-16-2017, 05:09 PM
Ok, I'll post it over on that thread.

WWhunter
08-16-2017, 08:10 PM
I received my 8.50-6 Dessert smoothies a couple days after getting home from Oshkosh. Dessert had them for $195 with free shipping so I bought a set.

fuzzypilot
08-17-2017, 10:29 AM
The tires I am looking at are Goodyear Flight Special 2 from Aircraft Spruce for $213

Slyfox
08-17-2017, 11:39 AM
I just put on the 27.5 8inch from Desser. All I can say about these tires is, a game changer. I love them.

Av8r3400
08-17-2017, 12:49 PM
The tires I am looking at are Goodyear Flight Special 2 from Aircraft Spruce for $213


These "blimp" tires are very heavy and have a very stiff side walk. FYI.

maxpayne
10-22-2017, 03:55 PM
I just put on the 27.5 8inch from Desser. All I can say about these tires is, a game changer. I love them.

Pictures please

N981MS
10-24-2017, 06:52 AM
I have a question that will not get a specific answer as there are innumerable variables that may shift performance one way or another. Specific airframe, weight, engine, prop, etc.

Bigger tires bigger weight should increase take off roll.
Bigger tires roll easier and should decrease take off roll.

Does one have more influence than the other?

Mainly I would like to know is there a penalty on take off roll.

I am curious about anyone's insight into this.

I have stock wheels and tires on our Series 6 TD with an IO240.

Thanks

WWhunter
10-24-2017, 07:06 AM
I went from 6-6.00 to 26" Airstreaks (not much difference but the landings are pillow soft. Loved the tires on the plane and near perfect for these size plane. Sold the 26" Airstreaks and upgraded to the 29" Airstreaks so I could have bragging rights and look awesome. While they are super soft and makes even a bad landing look good, I think the extra weight and drag are a little much for the plane. The other issue with these big tires is the fact that one needs to either add another brake caliper or the intensifiers as braking is degraded to the point of being barely sufficient.

Maybe if I were flying in the Alaska bush or really rough strips, I would keep them. I wished I had kept the 26" Airstreaks as I felt they were near perfect for my flying.

While at Oshkosh this year I purchased a set of the Desser 8.50 smoothies and will be running them tubeless. They are going to allow for an increase of 20+ lbs. of useful load. I don't have anything to prove to anybody and think they will be a great tire for my use. Will I look like the ubber awesome bush pilot? No, but the plane will perform better.

Slyfox
10-24-2017, 07:16 AM
went from 22 nanco's to the Desser 27 1/2. not only does it look good. it flies good. I don't think I lost more than 1 kts. take off seems normal. landing. smooooooth. wheel lands niiiiice. I love them, would do it again. At first I put the big tires on and left the little wheel in the back. that worked out just fine. I now have the T3 with the 8 inch matco. raised the rear up. but it still works great. I have flown it a bunch in the last couple months. I have done a few landings off field and these tires are great.http://www.teamkitfox.com/Forums/album.php?albumid=493

Av8r3400
10-24-2017, 07:35 AM
I just went from the dresser 21x800-6 tires to 26" airstreaks and love them.

A bonus is the increase in the 3 point aoa, not mentioned before. This will aid in shortening the takeoff and landing rolls. I had also changed to a Grove tailspring which lessened my aoa. The big tire got that back and then a little more.

My double puck Grove brakes seem to still work well with these tires.

I kept the smaller tires, wheels and rotors to make for a quick swap in winter because my skis are designed around the 21" tires.

Slyfox
10-24-2017, 07:55 AM
I have all the pieces to put double calipers on my kitfox. I still have the single and I can stop just fine. seems like it did with the 22 tires. so will I put the other caliper on. sure, just don't have the time right now. but I will. I can still do a static 5200 run up with what I have. oh and it's been about 10 years the last time I put brakes on my plane. they work great when I use them that is. no I don't drag my feet to stop. I just come in so slow I don't need brakes. :D

jiott
10-24-2017, 10:12 AM
Regarding Maxwell's question, my thinking would be that small tires roll better on hard surfaces and should give a shorter T/O roll. Large floaty tires roll better on grass and soft surfaces and should give shorter T/O roll on those surfaces. At T/O speeds I doubt that the differences in drag amount to anything measurable. Of course more weight will always be a negative. So the answer as usual is set up the plane according to your type of flying.

littlecricket
01-05-2018, 06:17 PM
I just put on the 27.5 8inch from Desser. All I can say about these tires is, a game changer. I love them.

What rims? Tubes or tubeless? What brakes? Thanks

avidflyer
01-05-2018, 09:55 PM
I was just on the Dresser tire site, and I couldn't find any 27.5 x 8" tires listed. Did you mean 6" tires? JImChuk

PS just went back and reread some of the earlier messages, and found the tires when I entered aero classic tundra in the search box. $500 a piece though.