What do I need?

[chefwarthog]

Wich tools will I need to build a kit, in addition of the tool kit?

like torque ratchet(witch one) 350lb/in is it enough?
and I think those Positioning Jacks will be helpfull?

[TahoeTim]

skip the jacks and get a tool cart to move your tools around with you

bench top drill press, cordless drill, files, basic tool set of wrenches, screwdrivers, socket set, riveter, friends to help

also get some benches. i use the folding plastic tables and solid core doors on sawhorses.

[beeryboats]

I made "airplane casters" out of three pieces of 18"x18" 3x4" plywood with office chair casters on each corner. I can fold the wings up and roll the whole airplane around the barn with ease. One thing I did add was a little wheel chock for the mains and a slot for the tail wheel tire to fall into.
Jay

[Esser]

Eric, a 90 degree drill will come in handy a lot. You will need a torque wrench that goes down to 10 INCH pounds. I got a nice bend style one on Amazon at a reasonable price. You will also need a torque wrench to go in the 20 to 60 foot pound range. A dremel will be handy too

Canadian tire has good blue metal folding saw horses. They go one sale about twice a year for 10 bucks regular 50. Snatch up at least 6 of them.

[TahoeTim]

Harbor freight has furniture moving dollies for $11. i have a few of them that have been under everything from race cars to engines to airplanes.

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[Av8r3400]

Harbor freight has furniture moving dollies for $11. i have a few of them that have been under everything from race cars to engines to airplanes.


+1 on those dollies! The tire jacks from the OP do not work, don't waste your money on them. Remember these planes are not heavy. They can easily be lifted to place on "regular" dollies during construction.

[t j]

Here's the harbour freight dollies. http://www.harborfreight.com/1000-lb-capacity-mini-movers-dolly-61899.html 1000 Lb capacity. You can't build em cheaper.

[TahoeTim]

Mine are 20 years old and they don't look like that anymore. I upgraded the casters on one of mine so I could moved around a 302 Ford engine.

I like how the front tires fit them perfectly. I may have to pick up two more.

Do you simply lift one wing at a time to slide them in?

[t j]

Lifting a wing would work but my wings have to be folded to get into my shop.

Here's photos of the process in Post #17.
http://www.teamkitfox.com/Forums/showthread.php?t=5790&highlight=dolly&page=2

[chefwarthog]

What I got:
about all Hand tools....
3 saw horse
4 cordless drills
3 electric drills 3/8 1/2 3/4
90° angle drill
90° angle impact
2 corless impact
1 multi cutting tool
1 demel
2 grinders 4½ and 6''
1 hand riveter
3 set of ratchet 1/4 3/8 1/2 imp, met
1 set of Bi-Métal hole-saw from 9/16 to 6''
3 sander orbital, vibrate, belt
2 compressor 5G and 16 Gallons
1 table saw 10''
2 compound milter saw 12''



what I need:
1 band saw
1 Banch ossillating sander
1 fluch riveter
1 good paint gun... (I have a good one... Tipman Phenum, but it will make holes inthe fabric.... ;-)
12'' Ratchet extention
1 Rimer for the pivot hinge (dim ????)
3 more saw-hores
1 routisserie
1 small refrigerator ;)

do I miss some thing?

my garage is 24' x 32' so i can't let the wing unfold....
but i have a nice concrete slab where a can work in summer.

[jiott]

I would say you got nearly all you need. Just start in on the build and see how it goes. If you really need something else it will become obvious. I did my whole build with only 2 sawhorses and one set of wing rotisseries and one small work bench with a vise. Borrowed a friend's band saw the couple of times I needed it. You will need lots of spring clamps and soft jaw bar clamps, but wait till you need them to get the right sizes. A couple of good C-clamps come in handy for pressing in bearings. The Dremel will be used a LOT. You will need a variety of hand files, even a small jewlers file.

[Paul Z]

I would add two things to your list, time and more money. Get ready you will find you need a lot more of both.

[Esser]

What I got:
about all Hand tools....
3 saw horse
4 cordless drills
3 electric drills 3/8 1/2 3/4
90° angle drill
90° angle impact
2 corless impact
1 multi cutting tool
1 demel
2 grinders 4½ and 6''
1 hand riveter
3 set of ratchet 1/4 3/8 1/2 imp, met
1 set of Bi-Métal hole-saw from 9/16 to 6''
3 sander orbital, vibrate, belt
2 compressor 5G and 16 Gallons
1 table saw 10''
2 compound milter saw 12''



what I need:
1 band saw
1 Banch ossillating sander
1 fluch riveter
1 good paint gun... (I have a good one... Tipman Phenum, but it will make holes inthe fabric.... ;-)
12'' Ratchet extention
1 Rimer for the pivot hinge (dim ????)
3 more saw-hores
1 routisserie
1 small refrigerator ;)

do I miss some thing?

my garage is 24' x 32' so i can't let the wing unfold....
but i have a nice concrete slab where a can work in summer.


You are more than set up enough to get started...you will get a good feel for what you are missing which I will say is not much. The band saw you will use so little that you can borrow a chums twice in the whole build. Obviously a a ratchet set too which I am sure you have.

24' X 32 is lots of room and more than I have by a long shot. You hardly need your wings on the fuse but it is nice to not have to suck in your gut to walk around everywhere.

[t j]

You will find you need a small 3/8ths inch drive torque wrench with small adjustments. Lots of torquing in the 25 to 100 inch pound range. Mine goes up to 250 inch pounds and only one bolt on my airplane needs more...the AN7 tail wheel to spring nut. I guess the engine to engine Cradle bolts need more too but I have a 1/2 inch drive beam and needle style for the big work.

[chefwarthog]

Is the tool kit sold buy KitFox at 375$ worth the price?:confused:
is there enough Clecos?
Which Iron is the best?

[rosslr]

Hi eric,

I got the kit - it was pretty useful. Enough clecos - there was only once that I can remember when a few more might have been useful. I guess it was more the convenience of the kit than the tools being particularly difficult to source. As for the iron .... the little hobbie iron that came with the kit worked once and stopped - nothing inside I could see to fix so discarded. We used three different irons. We finally found one that was pretty good at holding the temp at the calibrated temps but none of them were brilliant. We managed ok though. Get yourself a laser thermometer but be wary of using it on a silver iron as it is inaccurate due to the reflection. Other useful item was a electronic tape measure. And I found a drum of MEK useful - cheap and very effective way of cleaning spray and glue gear rather than using reducers. and boxes of rubber gloves!

have fun

cheers

[jiott]

I think the tool kit sold by Kitfox was worth it. I doubt you could save much if anything by sourcing the items yourself, so the convenience was well worth it. You will need everything that comes in the kit. I did ask them to include some extra clecos, which I was glad I did ( extra 10 or 20 so I ended up with 50 each).