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SkySteve
10-23-2013, 06:44 PM
I couldn't find a good place to post this. I am thinking we need a new sub-section under the Reports & Reviews, called "Where Did You Fly Today?" for reports about what you did, where you went that is not realy a Trip Report. What do you all think?

I only put 0.5 hours on the HOBBS today, but man, what a flight! I have been trying to schedule some flying time for myself lately. Most of my business appointments take about 2 hours and I got to thinking, "I should schedule an appointment 1 or 2 days per week just for myself", so I tried it this week. I prescheduled two appoinments for me, one on one day and another on another day. Both "appointments" were great, but today's was outstanding. I fired up old 85DD, called Ground Control, gave them all the necessary prelims and requested, "Taxi to the dirt strip and remain in the pattern". Got clearance, taxied out, did my runup and called the tower for take-off clearance, requesting stop and goes on the dirt strip. After I took-off I was immediately cleared to do an early right turn, left tear drop and land the opposite direction on the dirt strip. I've never had that happen before, but let me digress to yesterday's "appointment" so you will understand today's thrill. Yes, we are having a great flying weather week. Today it was 70 degrees, variable 4 mph winds, perfectly clear skys and bright sunshine! But back to yesterday.

Yesterday I had a very nice leisurely flight. When returning to the airport I called the tower and was told to enter a straight in approach for runway 16 and call 2 miles out, which I did. I was then told to enter a right base for runway 21, which I did. Just as I was about to turn final for runway 21, the tower called again, requesting I "fly to the mountain road and do a 270 degree left turn, then enter a right downwind for runway 34", which I also did (mountain road is about 3 miles east of the airport). You guessed it, when I returned and began to enter the right downwind for runway 34, the tower called again requesing i do a 360 before entering the downwind. I did, then entered the downwind for 34. Then, the tower called again saying, "keep the downwind in tight". Right, don't I always do that? I mean, come on, I'm flying a Kitfox! I responded and continued on the downwind thinking, "OK, I'm all done flying now". But as I approached abeam the numbers for runway 34, the tower called again! This time they said there was a lot of traffic (duh!) and could I execute an early base turn and final. I responded politely, "early base turn, 5DD", and banked that baby in! I mean to tell you I threw old 85DD into a full slip desending at 1,700 ft per minute, straightened her out at the thresshold landing on the numbers and she was all done flying. I had to power up to get to the first taxiway turnoff. But, again as I approached the first turnoff and started to head to that side of the runway I did notice a rather large business jet taxiing on the same taxiway straight at me. Tower, "Kitfox 85DD continue taxing runway 34 to Charlie, Charlie to the ramp, monitor ground point 7". I responded and taxied for another 30 seconds down runway 34 to taxiway Charlie, made my turn, passed the hold-short line and hit the flip-flop on my radio to ground control. Ground control came on the radio, "Kitfox 85DD thanks so much for your help today. We had an unusual amount of traffic, probably due to the good weather". I responded with the perverbial, "No problem, and thanks for the dance!" Ground controll said, "We'll make it up to you." I went on my way thinking nothing more about it, but I was kind of proud to have a plane that could manouver like a bird, and a tower that knew me well enough to ask for the help they apparently needed. End of appointment one.

So, TODAY, appointment two was the payback. I wasn't even thinking about it, but it was the same tower controller as yesterday and he was ready for me to get a chance to play! Let see, where was I? Oh, yeah, so there I am, taking off today and I get the clearance for the tear drop and return landing. So that's exactly what I did, hit my mark on the dirt strip, stopped and took off. Well, as soon as I took off the tower called, "Kitfox 85DD cleared for an early turn out, right or left turn, your choice and a teardrop back to the dirt strip, at your discretion, at your own risk". Immediately I replied, "early left turn, right tear drop for the dirt strip, at my own risk", and away I went, looking out the top of the turtle deck as I made a climbing tear drop turn, then entering a descending turn to complete the tear drop once I had reach the 1,000 ft AGL required pattern altitude, desending down the opposite side of the tear drop full flaps in a full slip to the dirt strip, hitting my mark and coming to a complete stop on the short half of the strip. Then, full power, nose up, half flaps, then yanking full flaps and lift off, blead the flaps while climbing, right early turn out, into the tear drop, look out the top of the turtle deck hitting the 1,000 AGL mark, turn and push the nose down, extend flaps, into a full slip, hit my mark, stop, go again, and on-and-on and on for a total of 8 take-offs and landings. Total time on the hobbs? 0.5 hrs hangar to hangar. Man, was I tired. And yes, I did thank the tower for "letting me play today!".

Well, it was such a great flying "appoinment" I just had to tell someone, and all of you are the someones! Thanks for listening.:D:D:D (ah, yes. The Kitfox grin)

SkyPirate
10-23-2013, 06:54 PM
Awesome :) but sounds like your just having too much fun lol if there is such a thing ha ha

Wingnuts
10-23-2013, 06:56 PM
Great idea and a wonderful way to to start it all off. Thanks for the short ride. :D

GWright6970
10-23-2013, 07:10 PM
Steve,
EXCELLENT thread idea, and first post!

I am painting the left wing today with good ole' Poly Tone white... 'suppose if I took off my respirator I could fly my way to heaven... I think that the fumes would make an angel out of ya REAL QUICK!!:)

Danzer1
10-23-2013, 08:07 PM
Steve, - that was way cool! Good story. Wish we had that leeway here - airspace is always way to busy!

Maybe under the reports section, titled "Snippets of Kitfox Experiences"?

Greg

DesertFox4
10-23-2013, 08:16 PM
Thanks for the great write up Steve.:D

It's always nice when a tower crew finally figures out what these little aircraft can really do in the pattern.

Dave F
10-25-2013, 11:00 AM
Then, full power, nose up, half flaps, then yanking full flaps and lift off, blead the flaps while climbing, right early turn out, into the tear drop, look out the top of the turtle deck hitting the 1,000 AGL mark, turn and push the nose down, extend flaps, into a full slip,


Wow , a flap user -- Do you find they help much on a the early models?

Good story - only differance is mine is 150 feet from my house. :)

:)

SkyPirate
10-25-2013, 04:25 PM
I flew around the patch today, M48 to K33 then over by Tbn then back home to M48,took about n hour, a little bumpy below 3500 other then that a pleasant flight, but i did figure out i need to get a heater installed, got most of the parts, just need to do it now , and i have some air coming in around the firewall, funny how you dont notice it until its COLD out :)

SkySteve
10-25-2013, 06:45 PM
Chase,
Yes, the heater is important. Like others have said, plugging holes is an important part of that. I use foam strips above the doors and in the front side vents but still seem to have cold air coming in. But I do have a heater, do use it and it does help. Someone wears a heated motorcycle vest which sounds like a good idea to me. Thanks for adding to the thread.

SkySteve
10-25-2013, 06:55 PM
Dave, yes I use flaps all the time, both taking off and landing. Without flaps my takeoff speed seems to be around 40 mph. Half flaps around 35 mph, full flaps about the same. However, if I set my flaps at half, then quickly pull to full flaps when I hit 30 mph my plane jumps off the ground. I lower the nose and hold it there in ground effect for a couple of seconds while picking up speed and bleeding the flaps off and I can then pull back on the stick and climb quite rapidly. I also pull back immediately on the stick as I first power up and the nose wheel comes right off the ground. I hold it there while gaining speed. Yes, I fly in nose wheel configuration and do a lot of off airport take offs and landings on lake beds; grass & dirt airstrips; ranch dirt roads; and on the desert floor between the sage brush.

And Dave, we are all jealous of your airstrip. I'm wirking in one, man. Hoping to have it operational in 2014. And one end of it will be within 50 ft of my house!;)

SkyPirate
10-25-2013, 07:17 PM
Steve..I have all the foam seals on doors etc,..going to have to stick a light up under the cowling and then look at the firewall from inside,..somewhere on the left side is a gap,..lots of air coming in and it's not getting heated much by the engine..

SkySteve
10-25-2013, 07:44 PM
Chase,
I've had the same exact thought about the same exact problem, cold air coming in from the left side. I can't find it, so I've been thinking of using the flashlight in the cowl trick. You go ahead and do it, find the problem, fix it and let me know. I'll do the same fix and won't have to use the flashlight! I won't have to ask someone to hold the light and won't have to get scared in the dark!

SkyPirate
10-25-2013, 07:46 PM
lol Deal,.. the only way checking it this way it wont work is if the firewall or something is flexing under pressure in flight but not while sitting still..we will see

Dorsal
10-26-2013, 05:09 AM
Are you sure it is coming from the front? I had cold air on my left coming from tail cone through the seat-pan gap. I think my biggest source of cold air is the slots for the tail trim. I fixed the seat pan, wall-off the baggage area and now the cold air comes through the front of the center console :mad:

SkyPirate
10-26-2013, 07:47 AM
Will have to check that Finn, thanks for info :)

SkyPirate
10-26-2013, 07:52 AM
Got to say I was proud of Kitfox the other day , a couple of guys that have flown other LSA aircraft ( built in Missouri) after they took control of the stick in my 5 are firm believers in kitfox performance versus .. The other guys :)

SkyPirate
10-26-2013, 11:00 AM
Found it :) got home and rotated the photo right so it should be easier to see now

SkySteve
10-26-2013, 11:40 AM
Chase, I can see it (a split I think), but what is it and where do I find it on my plane?

SkyPirate
10-26-2013, 03:11 PM
Its not a split, its where the cowl meets the firewall, there is a hump in the cowl , evidently the builder didnt account for the bump, easy fix

SkyPirate
10-26-2013, 03:42 PM
Sorry about the photo being sideways, i keep forgetting my phone has to be laid to the left for photos to be upright on the forum

SkyPirate
10-26-2013, 05:23 PM
flying down to 6M2 horseshoe bend for breakfast in the morning :) will try to get some photos

t j
10-26-2013, 06:05 PM
Today is the last fair weather day in the NW for awhile. The high pressure the past week or so has resulted in a pretty thick smokey haze in the Kittitas valley. I almost stayed in the pattern and landed after I took off it was so smokey, but there were so many students in the pattern I was afraid to try to fit back in. I made the most of it with a one hour trip around the Valley.

Smokey haze
5552

Mirror lakes in the haze
5553

Opening day of ELK season in WA
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More Elk Hunters
5555

Meadow Maggots
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Timmothy hay storage
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Super STOL 350 foot long strip??
5559

Breezy landed right behind me
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SkyPirate
10-26-2013, 06:33 PM
great pic's Tom ..that is a short field ,..but just guessing by the shadows it's about 4:30PM or 9:30AM ..and the length of the shadow compared to asphalt,,it's closer to 800' ? just a guess :) the shadow on the brezzy ..iffin I'm guessing right it's morning

SkySteve
10-26-2013, 07:51 PM
Very cool pics Tom. Thanks for sharing some of my old stomping ground.

t j
10-27-2013, 06:00 AM
great pic's Tom ..that is a short field ,..but just guessing by the shadows it's about 4:30PM or 9:30AM ..and the length of the shadow compared to asphalt,,it's closer to 800' ? just a guess :) the shadow on the brezzy ..iffin I'm guessing right it's morning

Its about 3:30 pm. We're at 47 degrees latitude. I think the long shadows at the short strip are due to it being on a NE facing slope. Word is this guy is a model airplane flyer. The strip has been there a couple years and I have never seen an airplane real or model there.

My wife calls this road where we take our morning walks the "Morning shadows road".

SkyPirate
10-27-2013, 01:14 PM
Smiling :) thanks Tom

SkyPirate
10-27-2013, 01:38 PM
We ran into weather on the way to 6M2
So we went back to M48 and GaWilkie flew my 5 , and had breakfast at Hayes CAfe' a good morning anyways even though we didnt make it to 6M2

SkySteve
10-27-2013, 04:20 PM
Ugly mean clouds.

SkyPirate
10-27-2013, 05:20 PM
Went for another flight this afternoon, was smooth air for a change

SkyPirate
10-27-2013, 05:23 PM
Just east of Ft Leonardwood

SkySteve
10-27-2013, 05:28 PM
Ah, much nicer.

jamesmil
10-27-2013, 05:28 PM
hi tj, the pic. you posted showing the haze we would call it clear and a million. in the summer here the haze can be so bad that some times at 4000 ft, you can only see the ground if you look straight down.:) but each area of the country comes with it's own conditions that need to be understood and respected.

Slyfox
10-30-2013, 02:44 PM
here is one of my landings
http://youtu.be/MaQNN1cJxPI

SkyPirate
10-30-2013, 03:24 PM
Steve is says this video is private

Slyfox
10-30-2013, 03:49 PM
try it now

Slyfox
10-30-2013, 03:50 PM
here is another one I did

https://www.youtube.com/edit?ns=1&video_id=4WeP8IVyA_o

DesertFox4
10-30-2013, 04:16 PM
Chase, I'm loving that you are flying at every available opportunity.:)

BTW. I added you and your photos to the official TeamKitfox.com members photo album directory under the Model 5 category. How cool is that? I've looked forward to this for some time. Welcome SkyPirate.:D

DesertFox4
10-30-2013, 04:21 PM
Slyfox- thanks for the RV ride. ;)

SkyPirate
10-30-2013, 04:48 PM
Thanks DF4 it's been a long wait :) I'm very happy with the 5 , just a few things to tend to,,the fuel smell from the header tank the biggest issue,..then changing all the windows except for the front/windscreen to a light tint,..not sure if I'm going to put wheel pants on or not..all in time

and Cool slyfox..need to put a remote swivel on there so we can see the Grin :)

Slyfox
10-30-2013, 05:22 PM
new camera, so, I need to get the mount put on the kitfox. those pics coming soon.