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SkyPirate
10-16-2013, 09:32 AM
Sabic plastics has 1/16" inch or 1.5mil bronze lexan for turtle deck and or side windows, it does have a UV rating i think 35% blockage, problem is it's a $100.00 minimum order and a full sheet is just under $75.00 , if your getting 2 sheets its not a problem, shipping is also around $100.00 unless your near an outlet for Sabic plastics, right now in chicago there is 168 sheets

Danzer1
10-16-2013, 10:02 AM
What size sheet is that, at that price?

Greg

SkyPirate
10-16-2013, 11:21 AM
4'x8' x1/16" it can be rolled up for shipping

Danzer1
10-16-2013, 11:44 AM
Wow, that's really cheap for 4 x 8 bronze - I hope they quoted you the right stuff.

Have you considered window tint film - just to see if you like it. It would be pretty inexpensive.

Also might try a local greenhouse or sun room builder/installer. Sometimes they have extra from projects or could lump you in with an order to save some cash.

Greg

SkyPirate
10-16-2013, 12:12 PM
Checked everywhere around here, the window tint film could work, but i have scratches in the windows and they need replacing so i will replace with tinted lexan, allot cleaner look, dont have to worry about bubbles etc

Danzer1
10-16-2013, 02:44 PM
I hear ya! Still sounds very cheap for that size bronze sheet. Is it cast or extruded? If you are doing shaping or forming (turtledeck), you might want to go with extruded. Post the specs or the links to them - I'm curious as to how theirs is about a 1/3rd the price of what I'm used to seeing.

Greg

SkyPirate
10-16-2013, 05:57 PM
If i do the complete turtle deck i would use at least .93 thick, i'm going to just replace the turtledeck window

SkyPirate
10-16-2013, 06:01 PM
Its standard lexan, they didnt have any M5 or M10

SkyPirate
10-16-2013, 06:53 PM
Color_______Solar Energy___Visible Light
Colorless_______85%___________92%
Gray 2064______36%___________25%
Gray 2074______24%___________13%
Bronze 2404____56%___________49%
Bronze 2412____35%___________25%
Bronze 2370____20%___________11%


reading this chart using clear for color,..85% uv penetrates clear,..92% 0f the light from the sun penetrates the lexan so clear is only 15% UV blockage
Bronze 2412 is 65% UV blockage because only 35% penetrates

SkyPirate
10-16-2013, 07:23 PM
from left to right

2064, 2074,, 2404,, 2370,,.2412







http://www.eplastics.com/core/media/media.nl?id=19812&c=621686&h=1bbe6c6dbcd12e8c9691&resizeid=-1&resizeh=100&resizew=100 (http://www.eplastics.com/Plastic?search=Gray/Smoke2064)http://www.eplastics.com/core/media/media.nl?id=19809&c=621686&h=ae867354e5faa8b2ed1c&resizeid=-1&resizeh=100&resizew=100 (http://www.eplastics.com/Plastic?search=Gray/Smoke2074)http://www.eplastics.com/core/media/media.nl?id=19112&c=621686&h=b2d218727d7280ebe5d0&resizeid=-1&resizeh=100&resizew=100 (http://www.eplastics.com/Plastic?search=Bronze2404)http://www.eplastics.com/core/media/media.nl?id=19126&c=621686&h=cc1bf522f12b0a769822&resizeid=-1&resizeh=100&resizew=100 (http://www.eplastics.com/Plastic?search=Bronze2370)http://www.eplastics.com/core/media/media.nl?id=19113&c=621686&h=91c6dd8790bea98e27c3&resizeid=-1&resizeh=100&resizew=100 (http://www.eplastics.com/Plastic?search=Bronze2412)

Danzer1
10-16-2013, 08:30 PM
There may be some correlation between solar energy and UV transmittance, but that's not what the measurement is. Solar energy %, is measuring heat transfer through the material. Clear - 85% of the heat transfers through and 2412 only 35% through.

Although, bronze 2412 only lets 25% of the light through - visible light measured at 6500 deg. Kelvin (normal daylight). So it's pretty dark. Might try getting a small piece of film with the same light transmittance (sample from car shop) and seeing if you really want it that dark.

Also, be aware the spec numbers (2000 series) you've given usually refer to plexiglass - in this case Acrylite, not polycarbonate - Lexan. Bronze Lexan usually uses 5000 series numbers. Might be why it is much less expensive than I would expect. Worth looking into/verifying.

Your thickness range is about right, some acrylics (depending on which one you actually end up using) have a bending radius of 100 times their thickness.

Greg

SkyPirate
10-16-2013, 08:57 PM
the colors are examples.I have a piece of the lexan bronze here at home but not big enough to use on anything,..it is the same shade as the 2412,..the other examples are not from the same vendor,..but only examples to give an idea of advantage or disadvantage of using tinted lexan

SkyPirate
10-16-2013, 09:04 PM
Sabic Plastics

Naperville Chicago Illinois office number
Tel: 630-428-4350

I called the St Louis office number

Tel: 314-738-0088

or use this link to find an outlet near you

http://www.sabicpolymershapes.com/polyshapes/PShapes/branchlocator/branchus.jsp

Danzer1
10-16-2013, 10:21 PM
Ah, Good info for me to keep in mind for future use! I wasn't questioning your wanting to use tinted Lexan, I was questioning whether you were really getting what you wanted. As, anywhere I have bought Lexan in the past, the price point was at least 3 times the price quoted to you. Their minimum and shipping charges though, might be where they are making their money - pretty damn high! Or they just don't like dealing direct with consumers!

Greg

SkyPirate
10-16-2013, 10:33 PM
Could be Greg, or the 168 sheets in chicago was ordered by another and then backed out, and they need to move it, i have also bought allot of lexan for various reasons, once in a while you
Can get some deals on it, i have also bought delrin and other plastic composition products onlinemetals based in houston missouri carry's allot of the exotics but no lexan dang it :)

SkyPirate
10-16-2013, 10:36 PM
VA appt in am, bunch of X rays gotta hit the sheets :) color me gone :)