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gizmos
07-23-2013, 12:03 PM
I am going to make my struts covers from blue foam covered with 3.8 oz fiberglass cloth. I made my hot foam cutter from "e" guitar string, small spring, 1x 4 pine wood for the bow. I am using a old DC transformer from a train set. Here is my bow and I will post photos as I go. I used an ihook and a rivet on the other to hold the string(metal)

Here is the foam. I used heavy speaker wire between transformer and bow. You can use 12 or 14 gauge house wiring

Geowitz
07-23-2013, 12:12 PM
I am planning on the same. I think this is the ticket for light weight fairings!

n85ae
07-23-2013, 12:24 PM
That's exactly how I did mine, and with a couple layers of glass cloth, using
West Systems epoxy.

Took almost as long to make as building the rest of the plane ... :) (When you
factor in the sanding, and filling that is.)

They came out nice.

Good Luck!
Jeff

gizmos
07-23-2013, 02:07 PM
Here is my first cut, I used my leftover lexan from windscreen for pattern, flormica works best. Trick is to move bow slow and don't bend wire, I used a 12 battery for power

gizmos
07-23-2013, 04:27 PM
My test piece , think it will be ok. Just tuck a little time to cut all the parts. I cut the inside tube with hot wire cutter. Take a little practice to get the right speed

gizmos
07-23-2013, 04:55 PM
I made enough for a couple sets, still have to cut tubing slot

Av8r3400
07-23-2013, 07:38 PM
What about covering with fabric instead of fiberglass?

gizmos
07-23-2013, 08:19 PM
I like to glass them. It make them stiffer than fabric and will not dent. I use west system epoxy, I have made numerous r/c plane molds. I made a 110in long sr71. The trick is to keep it light by using paper towels to dry excess resin off.

gizmos
07-24-2013, 12:46 PM
One strut ruffed in

gizmos
07-24-2013, 05:33 PM
Foam on, first coat filler

HighWing
07-24-2013, 05:37 PM
Here is another idea from the Lancair crowd. Lay a piece of polyethylene sheet on a flat surface. a bit wider and longer than the fiberglass. Lay the glass on top of the plastic and pour on the resin. Spread to saturate the cloth and lay another piece of the Poly on top and squeegee as much of the resin out of the cloth as you can. Brush the styrophone very lightly with the resin using a brush. Remove the top poly sheet and using the bottom one as sort of a handle, carry it to the foam. Press the cloth to the foam and remove the final layer of polyethylene. Smooth with a gloved hand.

The image shows the technique for the horizontal strut fairings - very light.

Dravenelle
07-25-2013, 06:33 AM
just a question

why don't you make a mold when you have
the plug ( foam shape)?

if you make a mold, you have a full composit
fairing... not foam inside?

just my 2 pen

David

gizmos
07-25-2013, 12:35 PM
You need something to hold in place. You could make a mold and put foam in spots. How many times have you seen people leaning on struts getting in and out of plane.

gizmos
07-25-2013, 02:28 PM
I used 3m contact to attached fiberglass cloth to struts before I apply epoxy, west system epoxy is the best

HighWing
07-26-2013, 03:18 PM
just a question

why don't you make a mold when you have
the plug ( foam shape)?

if you make a mold, you have a full composit
fairing... not foam inside?

just my 2 pen

David

I did exactly that on my first Model IV. But removed them after some BAD advice from a hangar neighbor - something he said about the materials I used being corrosive. The last place I wanted corrosion was on the lift struts. FHIW, I made up a test section on some 4130 and after 15 years no corrosion - even aganst the clean sanded metal section. Not knowing for sure, I removed them and used the PVC.

What was mentioned regarding their security and stiffness is a factor unless you placard - No Push and cross all your fingers. I have very thin aluminum fairings on my landing gear - .008". At the Arizona Desert Fox fly-in a guy leaned against one side with his leg looking in the cockpit and pushed a wrinkle into it. I made them raplaceable and have patterns so replacement was not a problem.

For the lift strut plug mold, I used a length of the extruded PVC. It was riveted to a long piece of sheet aluminum on the trailing edge to eliminate the overlaps of the glass sticking together. The ridges were sanded off and filled,then smoothed and painted. Once the fiberglass skins are cured, it is easy to trim excess to width with a carbide blade in a table saw. Once installed on the lift struts, I drilled holes at intervals and injected two part Urethane foam as a stiffener - it was the foam that the hangar neighbor didn't like (corrosive?). The foam exerts a lot of pressure as it foams up so you have to support the exterior surface of the fairing skins to prevent some parts of the fairing resembling a Greatest Loser Contestant. The weave still has to be filled and sanded, but it is not that big a deal. One of the real nice things about glass is that finishing the "V" becomes pretty easy. I would guess about a 7 or 8 lb. weight saving total

gizmos
07-26-2013, 06:40 PM
My wife and I was at the flyin, I hope it was me that damage your struts. Lol I am careful about things like that. I fly an RV6a and I have had people try and step on my flaps. No step! But you still have to hit them on the head. I used 3.7 oz cloth, light foam, less than 10 pumpson each strut, but most of it was dried off with towels.i used baby powder on the glass just before it dried, this fill some of the weave. I still put a **** coat of bondo, sanded most of it off. The corrosion was something I thought about. I live in southern ca and don't plan on leaving it out side. I am also sealing the top with caulk but leaving the bottom open. I am 56 yrs old, it they rust and fall off, I should be in my 80's, and that would make me happy. Not that they failed, but that I made it to 80. Lol

gizmos
08-03-2013, 11:49 AM
Well made a change in the middle of covering. I wraped the foam with 3.8 oz glass cloth . I dried the excess resin out of cloth with paper towels. I dried most of the resin out of the cloth which would make it very light. Down side, when you prime the cloth, any thin resin would let solvents in paint to attack foam. I found the problem before I primed the struts. I went back over the glass cloth with cloth I had left over when I covered the plane. This did not add much weight and still gave a good finish. These only have one thin coat of epoxy paint.

gizmos
08-03-2013, 11:50 AM
Here is the struts with fabric installed