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redbowen
01-02-2013, 09:34 PM
So the kitfox 5-7 uses Cleveland wheels part #40-281 it is a 6.00x6 magnesium wheel. Has anyone substituted a different Cleveland wheel that works with the same brake set up and 1 1/4 axle? Apparently 40-281 wheels are hard to find used and an aluminum option would be good for salt water environments. If you could share your part numbers that work on the kitfox I would appreciate it.

Thanks

Av8r3400
01-02-2013, 10:01 PM
I have Grove wheels and their double puck brakes on my flying plane. I couldn't be happier with them and plan to replicate this setup on my project plane.

From my observation they seem to be very similar to the Cleveland wheels and one of their products may be an interchange option for you.

redbowen
01-02-2013, 10:20 PM
The goal is to have a spare set for my 26" air streaks, but new they are ridiculously expensive, so if the groves would work without swapping the brake calipers, that could be an option.

kmach
12-16-2015, 05:30 PM
Did you find a set of rims to swap out and use the existing cleveland brakes ? If you did what make and part no.

redbowen
02-02-2016, 04:53 PM
Bump for additional input.

N981MS
11-30-2017, 02:47 PM
Old thread but I have the same question.

It looks from my research that the 40-281 might be interchangeable with a 40-60 or 40-60a. https://www.airframesalaska.com/40-60-Alaskan-Bushwheel-ABI-Cleveland-6-Wheel-p/abi-40-60.htm

If anyone has the answer I would surely appreciate it.

I just spoke to Grove and was told they only sell wheels as a kit with the brake cylinders.

Av8r3400
11-30-2017, 06:16 PM
I got a second set of Grove wheels and rotors for my new (to me) Airstreaks.

Makes swapping to the ski wheels easier.

kmach
11-30-2017, 07:28 PM
I have a set of 40-60 taking up space, I think they are aluminum, you would need the proper brake discs to make them match up with the 40-281 setup. These 40-60 have a weight of 6.31 lbs stamped on them.

I was going to set these 40-60 up for an extra set of tires, then a set of 40-281 came up for sale and I used those.

I paid $700 US for them , I would sell for that plus shipping.

N981MS
12-01-2017, 06:30 AM
Well darn. I should have been more patient and checked back here sooner. I ordered from Alaska Bush Wheels yesterday.

ABW returned my call more quickly than I expected. They checked some specifications and said their 40-60 wheels and brake discs should be interchangeable with the 40-281 so I went ahead and ordered. If you know a reason they will not interchange please let me know.

Thanks for the response.

kmach
12-01-2017, 06:56 PM
I checked the Cleveland parts list I have and the same brake disc part number is used on the 40-60 and 40-281. You should be good to go.:)

N981MS
12-02-2017, 06:04 AM
Thank you.

redbowen
12-02-2017, 05:50 PM
So the big question then is there a double piston, double puck brake option for the 40-60 wheel?

redbowen
12-02-2017, 06:01 PM
If anyone is interested in a pair of 40-281 wheels with brake disc and calipers I would be willing to sell mine. I need to go to a double puck set up for the 26 or 29" bushwheels and Grove is the better choice for that. Make me an offer. They are in good shape with about 270 hours on them.

N981MS
12-03-2017, 01:34 PM
I am going to try the stock setup first. I fully understand that it my be inadequate but I rarely if ever use any heavy braking.

Double Puck option on page 21:

http://www.airframesalaska.com/v/vspfiles/pdf/ABI%20199-71%20ICA%20REV%20A.pdf

N981MS
08-08-2018, 05:36 AM
Update and another question.

Been flying the 26" Alaska Bushwheel tires on Alskaka Bushwheel wheels with my Kitfox stock Cleveland brakes. Everything fit fine but the brakes are barely adequate.

Therefore, I ordered the double puck brakes from Airframes Alaska to go with the wheels. Unfortunately, the torque plate bolt pattern does not fit my gear leg (type 1) bolt pattern and I am not sure if I will be able to re drill to fit.

Does any one know of a torque plate that will work with Airframe Alaska brake calipers and the Kitfox gear leg bolt pattern. I already spoke with Airframes Alaska and Kitfox Aircraft and they were not aware of one.

Thank you,

N981MS
08-17-2018, 06:35 AM
I am invested in 2 sets of Cleveland 40-60 (essentially same as stock Kitfox Cleveland 40-281)wheels.
Bryan nailed the question. Does anybody have an answer? If not I guess I will have to change wheels and brakes. Bummer.

"So the big question then is there a double piston, double puck brake option for the 40-60 wheel?"

I need to add; that also fit a Type 1 axle bolt pattern which is what Kitfox uses.