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DanB
10-26-2010, 06:52 AM
A recent thread got me to thinking it would be nice to have one place a person can go and view panels. I know when I was planning mine I searched in many different places. So hit us with your best shot...
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akarmy
10-26-2010, 09:44 AM
http://www.teamkitfox.com/Forums/picture.php?albumid=143&pictureid=1802
http://www.teamkitfox.com/Forums/picture.php?albumid=143&pictureid=1805
http://www.teamkitfox.com/Forums/picture.php?albumid=143&pictureid=1797
http://www.teamkitfox.com/Forums/picture.php?albumid=143&pictureid=1804

wannafly
10-26-2010, 10:43 AM
These are some great looking panels. This is a very timely thread as I hope to redo my panel this winter. Dan I will be down to Mesa area soon would like to come have a look if it works. Will contact off line.

cap01
10-26-2010, 11:07 AM
i had the lexan that was for the windshield with the paper that wouldnt come off . so i use it for a template to make sure everything fit before i started cutting the metal . the frame tubing forward of the panel dictated how the instruments are arranged . the instruments came with the kit except for the eis . the eis was a good move . the layout is working well but if i was doing it again , i would go with glass .

Dave S
10-26-2010, 02:59 PM
I have a photo of our KF 7 panel in the members photos section under series 7 and my login name.

Dave S


http://www.teamkitfox.com/Forums/picture.php?albumid=26&pictureid=345

Av8r3400
10-26-2010, 04:51 PM
Here's mine...

N218SM
10-26-2010, 07:01 PM
Here's mine.

N218SM
10-26-2010, 07:17 PM
Plus a couple pics of the Van's glove/map box install.

inzersv
10-27-2010, 12:53 AM
Now this is what I am talking about! One small post and look at the help we get. These are some beautiful panels. Thank you DanB for getting this started.

lst
10-27-2010, 04:52 AM
Getting inspected today with first flight hopefully in the next few days weather permitting...

hansedj
10-27-2010, 11:24 AM
Here's ours.

Gary
10-27-2010, 12:52 PM
My panel will have steam, fuses and an IPad (cardboard mockup in the pic). No doubt it will evolve into something different once I start flying. I'm at least a year away from completion. Some interesting aviation apps are already available with more expected. Image is reversed by the way.

Av8r3400
10-27-2010, 04:44 PM
Gonna fly it from the right side, huh, James Bond.
(The photo is reversed, evidenced by the backwards numbers on the altimeter.)

Seriously, I like the iPad installation. My hangar-room mate uses an iPad with his plane. Pretty cool. Lots of neat stuff available.

War Eagle
10-27-2010, 08:10 PM
And this is mine!

kmach
10-27-2010, 10:01 PM
Hi all , this is the panel in my Outback ; Kevin

muth
10-28-2010, 10:02 AM
KITFOX IV Speedster, Panel designed 1999

catz631
11-01-2010, 07:20 AM
Holly Cow ! What beautiful panels ! With every steak we need a hambuger so here's mine from my older Kitfox. Don't laugh(unless you want too) it works !
Dick

Dorsal
11-01-2010, 09:56 AM
Re-posting to the collection (going for the clean look), My favorite so far is 218SM nice job!

wannafly
11-01-2010, 08:13 PM
It was great to finally meet you Dan. For the record the panel looks better in person. I expect a weekly update from you and Chuck as you make progress and you can expect a friend poke to keep moving and hopefully we can have 3 kitfoxes at the factory flyinn that have been there before.

DanB
11-02-2010, 07:06 AM
Thanks Mic, It was a pleasure to meet you and your wife as well. Wendy and I enjoyed the company along with Chuck and his wife. I guess there is no escape now (finishing the plane) with you and Chuck keeping me in check.
Hope you enjoy your trip to the Grand Canyon and don't take any wooden nickels.

Geowitz
11-15-2010, 09:01 PM
Does this count?????

DanB
11-16-2010, 12:18 AM
Geo...Sure it counts! So it goes, the panel seems to be one item in the plane build that takes quite a bit of time both in planning as well as executing the task. To me, one of the most rewarding when you see it materialize and makes one catch themselves doing more airplane sounds.

Av8r3400
11-21-2010, 07:44 PM
Here's how not to do a panel...

This is my project IV-1200. I started the tear down today.

Ken Birchard
01-06-2011, 08:08 PM
N722KF Panel

canelson
08-25-2011, 02:23 PM
Lots of nice panels! Here is mine. I wish they would have had the molded GPS mount when I built it.

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jamesmil
09-30-2011, 05:07 PM
this is the panel for our ss7, still have a long way to go but we will get there.:)

jamesmil
10-01-2011, 06:02 AM
thanks desertfox, hope to make homedale next year. if any one on the forum is in the wilmington nc area stop in at "03nc pilots ridge" a small airport 10 mi. south of wilmington nc "kilm" thats were i live along a few more airplane nuts.

wannafly
11-15-2011, 03:36 PM
here is what I am hoping will be my design. Centre is the MGL Voyager, to the left are the 2 mags, key and master. To the right of the voyager and down is the throttle and above that the choke. The 3 round are a V6 radio, Alt/airspeed, and RPM for backup or the co pilot, and below that is the transponder. Top center is the IVO IFA. Below the transponder there will be a few switched for lights, fuel pump, avionics, etc.
What do you think and what have I missed?

kitfox2009
11-15-2011, 08:02 PM
Hi Mic
I would put the IFA switch about 1" left of the throttle shaft. Very easy to flick left or right with your finger and hand on the throttle providing precise control.
Cheers

Don

DesertFox4
11-15-2011, 08:44 PM
Mic, great choice on the Voyager and V6 by MGL.
The V6 must be the smallest in-panel comm. with intercom yet.


Maybe look at MGL's Infinity Single's in 2.25" for your back ups too. MGL Infinity Single's. (http://www.mglavionics.com/html/infinity_singles.html) That would make a great looking panel.

As Don already suggested, you may want to locate the prop. control switch right next to the throttle along with the choke. Makes prop. adjustments much easier and safer if you don't have to remove your hand from the throttle during takeoff and landing.

Av8r_Sed
11-15-2011, 09:16 PM
You might want to add a power socket. Also, are your headset plugs going into the panel or elsewhere?

-- Paul S

wannafly
11-15-2011, 09:39 PM
the headset plug ins will be behind and up behind seats. Yes there will be an aux plug in as well. The 3 round instraments will be MGL- V6-ASX1-and a RV1

Jfquebec
12-13-2011, 09:26 PM
my panel for now..MK 4

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7153/6508938839_847a5f9cf7_b.jpg

HansLab
12-14-2011, 11:48 AM
Here's mine: to be completed with Garmin 296 and MGL VHF-6.
I like them gauges...:D

Jim
12-18-2011, 02:49 PM
Empty hole is for electric tach.
N44JZ
0-200 Continental
Lake Elmo MN 21D

P Morel
12-23-2011, 10:17 AM
My panel started off with many different designs until I settled on one that suited me. I decided not to go with any keys dangling from my panel. I painted my panel with base coat clear coat before labeling and labeled all my switches and circuit breakers with decals I made on my computer later. This way, I was able to control the font and exact size. Decal paper kits are available online very cheap and really easy to use. Once the decals were in place, another coat or two of clear and everything blends in nicely. For my row of toggle switches for lights, heater, smoke etc, I found some really nice round auto switches with led indicators when in the "on" position. These were very easy to install since they popped into a round cutout hole. The biggest problem I encountered was after installing my vertical compass in the panel, I could never get an accurate reading from it. I tried to degauss the magnetic field around the area where the compass is mounted, but I gave up on acquiring any kind of accuracy from the compass. It's mainly there for looks now and I rely on my GPS for direction. I have a green led light that indicates power and a red led light indicating low fuel. I built stand off brackets to mount the panel shock absorbers on and flush riveted them to the panel.

enyaw
04-10-2012, 09:36 AM
When we started our goal was to have a simple, clean panel and I think we've accomplished that.

Step 1 - How to Populate Panel - Done

This was a 2 year process that was finalized at least 3 times, then changed.
Step 2 - Panel Layout - Done (I hope)

It took about a month of btting ideas back and forth. Informally we considered where items would be placed as they were decided on.
Step 3 - Planning to cut - Done (unless it changes, again)

We are on Rev. 3 and it is currently the final layout, though it is open to change until the cutting begins. Note: Android ASUS Transformer Tablet Computer (running Naviator) will be mounted with a RAM mount.
Step 4 - Cutting - Done(I'm thinking this is a Major Milestone)

With the help of Robert Haines (fellow member of EAA 292), we got the panel cut on Roberts home made CNC machine (8' x 16' cutting bed).
Step 5 - Painting and Populating - WIP

OK, all of the instruments are fitted and surprisingly, it looks almost exactly like the drawing I made. If you're interested you can follow us here (http://www.facebook.com/pages/N517WD/132606786269).

DanB
04-10-2012, 04:06 PM
Sweet Set-Up Wayne...should be a dream to fly behind!
Dan

Dorsal
04-10-2012, 04:20 PM
Looks really nice, you might think about adding a separate button for ignition. I added one next to my key switch when I added the soft start and have found it very useful.
I envy your Skyview, should be sweet :)

DanB
04-13-2012, 02:53 AM
Gents,
I moved the Key Ignition vs Toggle Switch discussion to it's own thread. Good topic.

The offer from Leptronjohn to make CNC panels has been moved to its own thread. You will find it under classifieds and I stuck it at the top for now. Nice offer John.

enyaw
06-24-2012, 05:30 PM
Well here it is finished (still need a knob for the map box). We're pretty happy w/ it.

Build Site (https://www.facebook.com/pages/N517WD/132606786269)

SkySteve
06-24-2012, 07:53 PM
Wow, what a great looking panel. Your flat screens look huge.

Geowitz
07-05-2012, 08:21 PM
Decided to not mess with the Dynon D6. Made a removable flush mount for the Ifly 700. Labels/decals are done with waterslide decal paper and acrylic clear coat over them. Made up my own "Turbo Fox" graphic. Had a few paint boo boo's. Oh well, it will work.

Dorsal
07-05-2012, 08:23 PM
That is really nice, great job!

enyaw
07-05-2012, 08:37 PM
Wow, what a great looking panel. Your flat screens look huge.

Thank you.

The one on the left is a 10" Dynon Skyview, and the one on the right is my Asus TF101 (Android) Tablet running Naviator (http://www.naviatorapp.com/) w/a RAM mount. The panel was designed around putting the tablet in (an iPad will also fit).

DanB
07-06-2012, 04:52 AM
Geo, That looks so good...very professional! Love the Turbo Fox logo :)

Geowitz
07-06-2012, 09:40 AM
Thanks! The picture makes it look better than it is as it doesn't highlight the 1 inch round blob of acrylic I put on too thick(left of the master switch), which subsequently peeled off. Of course all the decals were on and it was my final coat of clear. I tried to respray that one area to blend, but it will forever show through. I always screw up something when I'm painting, but am too impatient to make it perfect.

DanB
07-06-2012, 02:39 PM
Geo, join the club I tend to do the same thing you are doing which is pointing out the boo boos. I think most of us have several and I started telling a friend the same stuff and he told me I better quit that...Most of the time WE are the only ones that recognize the goofs cuz we know where they are at.
Sometimes ya gotta just accept it's not all perfect and enjoy it.
It looks great

rwaltman
07-29-2012, 08:32 PM
And this is Parrot's panel. The black box behind the throttle is the intercom.

Russell320
08-18-2012, 12:39 PM
That's an interesting Vne on you're airspeed indicator. What kind of
airplane is it?

Grady
08-19-2012, 06:37 AM
Here is my panel, I like it.
Thanks

Tom Waid
12-03-2012, 03:29 PM
A couple of photos of my project. A detailed story about my adventure in panel building may be found here (http://tropicaltuba.com/Kitfox%20Project/Kitfox12.htm).

I have to say I've received lots of guidance by following this thread. One thing that struck me is that most everyone's situation is different requiring different panel arrangements. Someone who is the sole pilot with either no one or a non-pilot passenger in the right seat usually will cluster the instruments on the left side of the panel. I am extremely fortunate to have a wife who is a pilot and likes to fly. In this situation I decided to create mostly co-equal pilot stations. That is the reason I decided to install a Dynon D100 on the left and a D120 on the right. One processes flight information and the other processes engine information. But, since the two are networked, any information shown on one can be shown on the other. No need for an autopilot, she's sitting next to me. (Of course it goes both ways. I'm her autopilot.)

At some point I'll be trial-fitting everything. When I do I'll try to post a picture.

http://tropicaltuba.com/misc/807a.jpg

http://tropicaltuba.com/misc/806a.jpg

Av8r3400
12-03-2012, 06:52 PM
That's an interesting Vne on you're airspeed indicator. What kind of
airplane is it?


KPH, maybe?

200 kph = 124.3 mph

Tom Waid
12-07-2012, 04:02 PM
Everything fits! Tomorrow I'll put all the goodies back in the boxes and clean up the shop for painting.


http://tropicaltuba.com/misc/809a.jpg

jiott
12-10-2012, 10:25 PM
Nice panel Tom.
I was at that point about 1.5 months ago and figured I have it wired in a few weeks. Its now 1.5 months later and I'm still not done wiring, but close. Allow plenty of time, the intercom wiring is a bear. I scrapped out my first intercom wiring harness and started over due to some poor solder joints. In hindsight I think buying the PS Engineering factory made wiring harness (at about $350) would have been a good deal, plus it is the only way they will give you a warrenty.

Jim

Dave Holl
12-14-2012, 01:29 PM
Here is a photo of my panel, still a lot of work to do!

Dave S
12-14-2012, 03:36 PM
Dave,

Panel looks great!

Got a couple questions...

There is a device in the upper right and upper left that I do not recognize....???

Also, where did you find the toggle switch protector on the left side of the panel?


Sincerely,

Dave S
KF 7 Trigear- Flying
912ULS Warp
St Paul, MN

Dave Holl
12-15-2012, 12:26 AM
Dave
The items on the top left and right are instrument flood lights that I rescued from a Boeing 747 that was being stood down! The switch guard actually came from a Boeing 737-500 that was being scrapped due to extensive fuselarge damage but similar guards can be purchased from a company called Deamon tweeks that specialize in supplying to car racing enthusiasts. I will be fitting a soft start module so have decided to fit a seperate start switch and start master stitch, most of the warning lights are Boeing 737 items together with the circuit breakers and their protectors, I have decided to make a map pocket below the radios, I have also decided to make a cutout for the throttle so that I can remove the panel and leave the throttle in position.

jiott
02-21-2013, 10:55 PM
I have finally finished my panel and cockpit area, including the console, floor carpeting, fabric and upholstery. The seats, fabric and carpeting are from the Kitfox interior kit.4419

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Tom T
02-22-2013, 12:55 AM
Jim,
Looks great! Glad to see the MVP (major visual progress), nothing beats the feeling you get at one of these points in the build.

Take care...

Dorsal
02-22-2013, 05:28 AM
Beautiful, nice work.

kebopa3
02-22-2013, 06:51 PM
Jim,
It looks outstanding. I appreciate you sharing; the photos are really motivating.
Keith

chefwarthog
04-04-2013, 11:37 AM
On the first picture of the first thread Dan B, has a carbon panel bolt on a nice round contour dashboard do you know where to get those?

DanB
04-08-2013, 12:30 AM
Sorry Eric...this one slipped past me.
That molding is the handiwork of DesertFox1 (AKA Papa). There were only a hand-full of them made over 10 years ago and I was fortunate enough to find one stashed in the corner of a hanger. I believe the mold is long gone. :(
Dan

desertfox1
04-08-2013, 07:39 AM
Found the mold, it needed a little work but is now ready. I'm forming
one for Mark N next week and will run a couple extra. The part is
thermoformed from a weatherable material and is not structural, it is
a trim piece. Been using this type on the SS7, works fine, but the
challenge for the model 4 part is the custom glare shield you must
fabricate.

Eric, flat pieces of carbon fiber are available from dragoplate.com.
Very nice, quite pricey.

Phil

chefwarthog
04-08-2013, 11:32 AM
Do you know if the Super sport come with a Dashboard of some sort? I saw some panel with a kind of sunshed arrond the panel..... is that come whit the kit or juste the aluminium panel?:confused:

jiott
04-08-2013, 04:40 PM
The SS7 does come with a fiberglass glare shield in addition to the aluminum panel.

Jim

chefwarthog
04-09-2013, 12:51 PM
Jiott is it like on this photo? and on the top is fabric?

Dorsal
04-09-2013, 03:29 PM
Fabric over fiberglass for the glare shield, you can trim it to extend over the panel about as much as you want.

jiott
04-09-2013, 10:07 PM
Only the fiberglass glare shield is included in the basic fuselage kit. The fabric I used came with the interior seat cushions and upholstery kit (optional from Kitfox). The fabric is attached to the glare shield with 3M spray glue. Be careful when you spray the glue on the backside of the fabric; I had a few globs that soaked thru and made some unsightly spots on the top surface.

Jim

chefwarthog
04-10-2013, 07:27 AM
Thanks for the info guys!! It's appreciate. I really like the trim that Phil (desertfox1) install arround the panel...... but Arizona is a long way to go by canoe from Quebec to get it!!!:D

Is someone did modify there, to look more customize, by adding some thing to round-up the edge?

jiott
04-10-2013, 09:50 PM
My photo doesn't show it, but later on I put a rubber edge channel molding on the glare shield edge from Aircraft Spruce part # 05-01600. It just slips on and holds tight without any glue.

Jim

chefwarthog
04-11-2013, 06:35 PM
It look like it's a good idear Jim, and by looking closly at the pictures of the LSA sold by John..... it's more appealing with a larger rounded eadge, but it take 1 inch or more of panel space in circumference, with the EFIS that are larger and larger I dont know if two 10'' display can fit with a larger trim..... so the rubber trim seem to be the logical choice.:rolleyes:

SkySteve
04-17-2013, 08:15 PM
Rmendler,
WOW! You've got a very full panel. Question: I see you have your GPS mounted in a Gismo. Do you ever take the GPS out of the panel?

Rmendler
04-18-2013, 06:23 AM
Just to clean behind it. It's a lowrance 2000d. Nobody makes updates for it so its useless for primary navigation. I use it as a backup only because it still receives loran gps signals. I will probably replace it someday.

I use an iPad 2 with foreflight and the new stratus 2 for primary navigation.

Plus there is always the compass and directional gyro so even in a full electric failure I still have 3 sources of navigation

Everything was very well laid out making it all easy to look at while flying.

Set_of_Nine
04-30-2013, 02:41 PM
Sorry about the quality of the pic's.
The night panel looks a whole lot better in person.

Dorsal
04-30-2013, 05:15 PM
Very cool!

kitfox5-14WY
05-01-2013, 01:47 PM
Ok I guess I'll show my Panel. It's still under construction, I just want it to be simple and light weight With the IFly GPS. Just for back country flying.

wannafly
07-26-2013, 06:04 PM
It's finally in. MGL Voyager, V6, Garmin transponder, VPX Sport. Now to program it and finish the setup.

Esser
07-26-2013, 06:08 PM
Nice Wannafly,

This is pretty much the setup I want to run

kmach
07-26-2013, 09:29 PM
Looks real nice Mic !

Danh
07-27-2013, 12:40 PM
Looking good! Very nice keep them coming

SSFoxBuilder
09-19-2013, 05:20 PM
Here are a couple pictures of the CF instrument panel we had fabricated. It has a ways to go, but a laser cutter will make short work of it.

kitfox5-14WY
09-19-2013, 09:04 PM
Hay there SSFoxBuilder, carbon fiber is neat stuff and vary light wieght. I lost 2lbs. by making my model 5 panel. Plus It's a nice touch with a matt finish to keep the glare down.:p

gizmos
11-07-2013, 01:12 PM
Here is mine, building as funds are available ....2ea garmin g3x, and garmin autopilot and radio stack with audio panel...over kill I know, but I like it

gizmos
11-07-2013, 07:36 PM
5682Good, thanks for asking. Here is a project I picked up in Montana a few weeks ago ragwing rw11

Jerrytex
01-28-2014, 08:22 AM
Recently my altimeter quit. I decided to go with the MGL ALT-3. However, I changed my mind and decided to bite the bullet and go with the MGL Extreme. The altimeter would have just done one thing. The Extreme is an all in one and will do more than I will ever need. I got it installed and I believe my panel is complete. Installation was very easy as it fit right into a 3 1/8 hole. Had to run an OAT sender which the extreme came with a nicer sensor than the Altimeter. I put it in the passenger rear quarter window under the wing. Haven't had a chance to fly it since we are in the midst of a blizzard here in central Texas but this weekend it's gonna be back in the 70's so I should be good to go this weekend.

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Tom Waid
03-11-2014, 01:38 PM
I'm making progress. A little paint and some labels.

I blush to confess that I used gray propeller paint.

By the end of the week it should be permanently mounted in the airplane.


http://tropicaltuba.com/misc/panelletter.jpg

SkyPirate
03-11-2014, 01:41 PM
Nice Tom, looks great 👍

Dave S
03-11-2014, 02:06 PM
Hey Tom,

Panel looks great....Nothing wrong with prop paint:).....FWIW.....I used some left over body lacquer I had from a '87 Merc Grand Marquis.....proper application gives it a nice satin, non reflective surface (post # 5 on this thread). Also used it for the seat pan, glareshield, custom baggage bay...oh crap!...what didn't I use it for?

BTW - what did you use for the markings on the panel?

Cheers,

Dave S
KF7 TRigear

Tom Waid
03-11-2014, 03:42 PM
Hello Dave,
I used a Brother Label Maker with black letters printed on 1/4" clear tape.

See more here! (http://tropicaltuba.com/Kitfox%20Project/Kitfox16.htm#11 March 2014)

All the best,
Tom

jiott
03-17-2014, 11:46 AM
Tom,
I have been following your build website and noticed you have installed your panel and are now wiring it. FWIW I found that it was MUCH easier to install all the panel components and then prewire as much of them as possible on the bench. Then install the panel in the airplane and finish up the wiring. In fact I came up with a way to pivot the panel down 90 degrees so the backside was facing up, which made the final "in-place" wiring much easier.

Tom Waid
03-18-2014, 01:50 PM
I gave serious consideration to prewiring the panel on the bench but, in the end, I decided to wire it in place. My avionics-rocket-scientist friend is coaching me on assembling the harnesses on the bench and then installing then in the panel. I'll probably have to remove the radio mounting bracket to install the molex connector and antenna lead.

It goes without saying that I may regret my decision. If this happens I'll "fess-up" on the website.

At the moment my avionics-rocket-scientist friend is on some South Pacific Paradise Island fixing a radar station. I hate it when he abandons me like this.

Olle1975
03-26-2014, 07:20 AM
My panel by a kitfox III with rotax 582

SkyPirate
03-29-2014, 08:30 PM
as of today thanks to a couple on field friends

SkySteve
03-29-2014, 08:36 PM
Chase,
That looks nice and clean. Good layout.

SkyPirate
03-29-2014, 08:43 PM
Thanks Steve,..once my A&P friend gets done with the wiring it will be set down under the panel support tabs on the bottom,..he is making the radio wiring harness now

SkyPirate
03-29-2014, 08:55 PM
can't wait to try her out :)

DesertFox4
03-30-2014, 12:18 AM
Nice job Chase.

cubtractor
03-30-2014, 06:27 AM
That's going to be nice. Did you decide where to install the inclinometer?

SkyPirate
03-30-2014, 07:43 AM
Thanks Steve

Mike, i will probably get the smaller one like we discussed, and put it center under tach

Jch
05-31-2014, 06:28 PM
Dynon Flight Dek D180, IPAD Mini w/ GPS, (Glove box behind IPAD), Garmin GTR 200, and Garmin GTX327
SS7, 912ULS, Whirlwind 3 Blade

Pilot4Life
05-31-2014, 07:35 PM
Looks good Jch! How did you mount the iPad mini? Also, any plans for the gap between x-sponder and the GTR? I like the clean look of the panel!

Av8r_Sed
06-01-2014, 06:08 AM
My IPAD overheats regularly.

I had that issue with an iPad gen1. I'm using an iPad mini now and haven't experienced an overheating event yet, though I haven't flown with it in really hot weather yet.

SkyPirate
06-01-2014, 08:19 AM
I will be putting the IFLY to the test starting tuesday, forecasted temps for our route are in the mid 90's once we get past the Apalachain trail,, i have my sectionals all set with way pts etc, as the ultimate back up. There is a good chance we will be flying with at least 1 door opened :) but the plan is to do most of the flying morning and afternoon, find a big ole shade tree in some field to land by with a pond to take a dip in before the mid day heat takes over😁

Paul Z
06-04-2014, 11:19 AM
I had that issue with an iPad gen1. I'm using an iPad mini now and haven't experienced an overheating event yet,

At 88 degrees last Tuesday, I had it opened for the maps. I flew for about 1.5 hours, it was so hot, I stuck it in the refrigerator at the airport when I got back. It was very hot to touch. I have a second generation regular size. I will not waist money on another iPad!!! I like my first generation it worked fine this iPad II way too hot!

Paul Z
06-04-2014, 05:04 PM
iPad screens look good in the hanger, take it out on the Tarmac on a nice sunny day and read it.

Timberwolf
06-05-2014, 05:04 PM
I have no experience with the older Ipads, but we are using 4th gen Ipads with retina displays and have no issues with the sunlight readability or overheating. AFSOC issues them to us and I really haven't heard any complaints. YMMV.

Av8r3400
06-05-2014, 07:17 PM
AFSOC - Air Force Special Operations Command?

Timberwolf
06-05-2014, 08:10 PM
Yes Sir. They are finally catching on and purchasing Foreflight for us along with enough Stratus receivers for all the aircraft. Only seems logical after all the money I'm sure has been spent on Jeppesen apps and other such ones that are really no use to us.

Paul Z
06-05-2014, 09:29 PM
Mine is a retina display, maybe it's an iPad III, I know I have taken it to the Apple store, and they even commented how hot it gets.

mr bill
06-18-2014, 12:02 PM
Finally, the panel is done (for now). Dynon D-10A with AP74 autopilot, Garmin GTX 327, GTR 200 and Rotax engine instruminets. GPS for now is Garmin 500, subject to change after Oshkosh. Lettering was by silkscreen from the SolidWorks file used to design the panel. A vendor used the SolidWorks file to cut the panel from .080 thick 6061-T6 aluminum, using waterjet cutter. It took 14 minutes to cut out the entire panel and cost $60. Silkscreen and printing was another $145.

cubtractor
06-18-2014, 01:58 PM
Wow that looks great!

Meyertheflyer
06-20-2014, 01:06 PM
This is my simple but does all that I could need panel. Now I can run the engine and move along.

muth
06-20-2014, 01:42 PM
Milestone achieved, panel ready for painting
Stby ASI and ALT is a requirement by the Swiss FAA, Com VHF Garmin GTR225A, iPad mini with Airnav Pro

JohnB
09-05-2014, 05:13 PM
Thanks to all that have posted here as it has given me lots of inspiration in planning my panel. Now it's time to return the favor.
Here is the latest iteration of my Super Sport panel plans.

Garmin G3X touch screen, GTR 200 radio, Ipad Mini in a flypad mount, GDL 39R ADS-B and GTX 23ES remote transponder.

Almost time to start cutting holes.

PapuaPilot
09-05-2014, 06:38 PM
That looks really nice! I am planning on the the same panel as yours. I will be putting my iPad Mini in the portrait position, not in the landscape position like yours.

I like the idea of having the GTR-200 instead of the remote GTR-20.

I am hoping to get mine painted in the next month and the panel and electrical will will be the next big task.

JohnB
09-06-2014, 05:53 AM
Thanks,
Originally, I was going to use the GTR-20 remote radio and save a couple hundred dollars. But Garmin's remote boxes seem really large. I ended up mounting the transponder behind the pilot's seat. Then couldn't find enough room left over on my avionics shelf behind the panel for the remote radio. I do like the idea of being able to still control the radio if the EFIS screen goes kafooey though.

Tom Waid
09-06-2014, 10:30 AM
Done

http://tropicaltuba.com/misc/WaidPanel.jpg

This photo was taken a couple of weeks ago. Haven't been able to work on the Kitfox since then. I'm doing the annual on the old Cessna and there are a lot of issues.

I'll be back at it in a week or two!

jrevens
09-06-2014, 03:44 PM
That looks very nice Tom!
You're getting there!

airlina
09-06-2014, 04:44 PM
Nice job Tom , very clean with not too much "stuff". you do nice work . Bruce N199CL

ken nougaret
09-07-2014, 07:10 AM
looks good tom! i'm jealous.

Mcslamma
09-08-2014, 04:34 PM
Old School, but I just got this IV-1200 in the air for first time in ten years, on Floats and she is a beatifull thing,,,

jrevens
09-08-2014, 06:37 PM
I love your "old-school" panel, Craig! It's beautiful.

Mcslamma
09-08-2014, 07:25 PM
Well thanks,

I started flying in 1988, did 60 hrs or so, life happened and never completed liscence, last October, I said to myself after 25 years of not flying, I'm goin back to get that Liscence, April I got it, May I did Seaplane rating, July I Trucked this beautiful Kitfox IV home , and Yesterday I flew her for the first time, and what a feeling it was...

The old school panel is what I liked most about this airplane when I first saw it...

Fliegerpeter
09-11-2014, 05:52 AM
Panel before and after remodelling. Vixen has 1025 hrs. since 1995 :).
Yes -- and EFIS shows a cross wind of 50 knots:D.

P Morel
10-26-2014, 09:57 AM
Mike,

Can't wait to see this one completed!

Lion8
11-16-2014, 04:09 PM
Any chance someone could post the 'Behind the panel' photos? I am trying hard to get mine at neat as possible but I might be expecting to much.
-Tom

Av8r3400
11-16-2014, 06:05 PM
In my album (Link (http://www.teamkitfox.com/Forums/album.php?albumid=115)) I have a couple of photos of behind my panel.

The man who built my plane (now deceased) was very detailed oriented.

mr bill
11-16-2014, 07:24 PM
This is my wiring.

jiott
11-16-2014, 09:36 PM
My Dynon Skyview and Garmin SL40 wiring. The last photo shows my tilt-down panel that rotates down 90 degrees for servicing the backside. By leaving long enough service loops in the wiring it allows the panel (when bottom 4 screws are removed) to tilt down without disconnecting any wires. This system does not require removing the boot cowl to have full access to the instrument bay and its wiring.

Dorsal
11-17-2014, 05:18 AM
Wow, nice workmanship!

KFfan
11-17-2014, 05:35 AM
Smart, very smart.

gizmos
11-17-2014, 11:42 AM
Just got money! Bought panels this weekend. Going to order wire harness and hub. Going to cover panel with leather black going all garmin

Danh
11-18-2014, 07:46 AM
I like the fold down panel feature, very clean work we can all learn from

GWright6970
11-18-2014, 07:33 PM
It is NOT wired yet... starting this week on that task!

After having been in the techy world my whole career, I have no desire to go to the glass cockpit route... I want the old steam stuff, a scarf, and a leather helmet!

jiott
11-19-2014, 11:02 AM
To each his own, regarding glass vs. steam gauges, but I venture to say that you will be carrying some sort of portable GPS device. Why not build it into the panel so you won't have to mount it on some sort of jury rigged mount or on your lap?

GWright6970
11-19-2014, 06:57 PM
Jim,
Excellent point...but.... I am now entering "retirement flying".... no more Army helicopter gunships, IFR Cessnas, etc...

Yes, I even sold my full IFR Cessna 172 after many years of faithfull flying. She is now in the skies over South Africa of all places. I sold her because I am seriously bored with the gizmos, and wish to fondly return to the flying I did as a young man in Alaska. 99% of all my Cessna flying right before I sold her was VFR, local out to 150 miles... I can find my way there and home by sight... it is easy when ya live in the southwest end of the huge Sacramento Valley!

The Kitfox to me is a return to the Taylorcraft and Cubs, small, slow, and just plain fun to do. I no longer have to be anywhere fast... and looking and experiencing is the pleasant thrill not the high tech gizmos.

I do hope to tag along with Lowell on some adventures, and I will then hang a suction cup mini iPad with Foreflight in it on the panel (hence to open right side) but will still be looking at a paper Sectional... I am still looking for the scarf and leather helmet!

jiott
11-19-2014, 11:54 PM
I hear you GW and it sounds like you will have an iPad if you need it. I was on one of those local VFR navigate by sight flights earlier this spring and I stayed out just a little too late. The temp/dew point spread was close all day but as I headed home the fog just started to form and as I approached my home airport I suddenly couldn't recognize anything on the ground. I used my GPS and got right on top of my home field and then I could see it looking straight down, landed OK. Sure was glad for a little technology that time.

t j
11-20-2014, 08:53 AM
I was too embarrassed to post a panel picture until now. This thread started over 4 years ago so I looked back through this entire thread just to make sure I hadn't. It is interesting to see the panels getting more and more high tech ans the time goes on.

Here's the other end of the spectrum. "Hands off" during one of my first phase one flights. Note the speed. later I installed wing strut fairing and now its 85mph.

GWright6970
11-20-2014, 12:28 PM
Jim Ott,
Yes... you have an excellent point, well taken... thank you!

Kurt.A
11-20-2014, 09:25 PM
No Reason at all to be embarrassed! The workmanship looks great. Simple and Very effective panel without the high expense and added weight of High Tech.

HighWing
11-28-2014, 12:35 PM
I too was a bit reluctant to do the deed as I still prefer round gauges and push pull circuit breakers. I mounted the IFly on a mount made to bring the screen closer to my aging eyes.

Picture one shows the panel with the doors closed.
7989

Pic two shows the video camera monitor in position and the chart pocket door open.
7990

JohnB
02-04-2015, 02:35 PM
IT'S ALIVE, IT'S ALIVE, BWAHAHAHA!

Sorry, it's just so exciting when the electronics light up for the first time and all the smoke stays inside where it belongs.

SkySteve
02-04-2015, 03:00 PM
John,
Wow!! That's BEAUTIFUL!!! We will now call you "Panel Man".

Mcslamma
02-04-2015, 03:21 PM
Yes, Very sharp clean looking panel there. And Yea, it sucks when the Genie comes out cause you just can't get it to go back in!!

Av8r_Sed
02-04-2015, 05:15 PM
Well done! Is it just as pretty behind the panel?

TahoeTim
02-04-2015, 07:05 PM
Awesome. Please share details on the ipad mount, the switches, and the polished sticks...

Danh
02-05-2015, 07:09 AM
Alive and looking Real Good !!

JohnB
02-05-2015, 03:43 PM
Well done! Is it just as pretty behind the panel?

Behind the panel is a work in progress Paul. Still needs some pretty-fying and some bundling. Once everything checks out OK I'll tear into it with my wire lacing cord. Have really learned to like that stuff.


Awesome. Please share details on the ipad mount, the switches, and the polished sticks...

The Ipad mount is a FlyPad flush mount. They have a video on their website that shows how the Ipad snaps in and out.
https://www.flypadmount.com/

The switches are the round rockers that Kitfox sells. Same thing they use in their LSAs.

The sticks are the stock sticks that I polished with Nuvite. Also used it on the landing gear, door hinges etc. really makes things shine.
http://perfectpolish.com/

jrevens
02-05-2015, 04:28 PM
It all looks beautiful, John!

TahoeTim
02-05-2015, 07:56 PM
Do you apply a sealer after polishing? I have read where others polish the gear frequently to keep it bright.

Is your ipad a mini or full size ipad?

JohnB
02-05-2015, 08:09 PM
No sealer, but the Nuvite is supposed to have some protectant included in the finish compound. Time will tell how long the shine lasts.

The Ipad is a mini.

Kurt.A
02-06-2015, 10:28 AM
Awesome panel John, thanks for the link to the mount. I had a good look through the website and have it saved. I love the idea that there is provision for a set of standard gauges on the backside of the mount for back up.

TahoeTim
02-07-2015, 05:35 AM
The site lists the backup gauges provision as optional but I didn't see a choice to add when ordering. Maybe you just drill holes in the back plate?

JohnB
02-08-2015, 07:41 AM
Don't know the answer to this one, but the company has been very helpful with answering questions via email.
orders@flypadmount.com

PapuaPilot
02-09-2015, 09:30 PM
I just got my panel painted last week and installed the CBs and switches over the weekend. It is similar to John's panel in that it will have a G3X Touch, Garmin GTX-200 com and an iPad mini. I have an AirGizmos mount for the iPad.

It was a little tight to fit all of the stuff on the left side with the molded fiberglass panel that I have.

BobRS
03-08-2015, 06:22 AM
Finished the panel and performed a final interference fit check yesterday before we start wiring. Laid out a birch plywood mock up in the KF before machining the panel on the bench milling machine purchased in the aircraft tool isle of Harbor Freight. Decided to install AS. ALt, Compass, and a clock on the co-pilot side for my co-pilot wife Kathy and passengers. We have a AFS 10" glass instrument panel and our bird is a Rotax 914 for the high altitudes here in NM and the Rockies. Installed a 'capped' AUX 12V power outlet for the hand-held back-up iCOM radio just in front of the trim switch. The BNC between the throttle and choke goes to separate antenna for the hand-held and better gain. Works pretty well.... I can hear ATIS at KAEG, 30 miles away from the house with the KF sitting in my driveway. Build partner Kitfox Rick (father-in-law) has an iPad, and needs to purchase a mounting bracket for installation about the glove compartment. I took my time laying out the panel and indexing each center with the panel screwed to a wooden 1" x 12" board on the milling bed. Purchased a combination 2" & 3.125" punch from Spruce and I'm making it available to a couple of other EAA chapter members with builds in-progress. Instead of silkscreening the panel, I used clear OfficeJet full-page adhesive labels, with another clear label on top of the printed sheet. We'll see how long it lasts, I can always print more. Layout was done on ViaCad, a pretty inexpensive Cadd system available on-line or at OfficeMax. Does 3D drawings too. I have about 50 hrs in the final panel instrument assembly. Powder coating was done at local coating shop here in Albuquerque.
http://www.teamkitfox.com/Forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=8552&stc=1&d=1425820288

http://www.teamkitfox.com/Forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=8553&stc=1&d=1425820288

http://www.teamkitfox.com/Forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=8554&stc=1&d=1425820288

BobRS & Kitfox Kath
N104Y, SS7, Rotax 914
Alb, NM

Esser
03-29-2015, 10:28 AM
The Ipad mount is a FlyPad flush mount. They have a video on their website that shows how the Ipad snaps in and out.
https://www.flypadmount.com/

The switches are the round rockers that Kitfox sells. Same thing they use in their LSAs.

The sticks are the stock sticks that I polished with Nuvite. Also used it on the landing gear, door hinges etc. really makes things shine.
http://perfectpolish.com/

John,

Do you have the dimensions for the ipad mini flypad mount? There is nothing on their website for dimensions to plan.

JohnB
03-29-2015, 03:04 PM
The cutout opening dimensions are 7.95" by 5.61"
The overall dimensions (behind panel) are 8.75" by 5.94"

Colombiafox5
03-29-2015, 03:27 PM
Hi , I will like to share the update on my kit fox 1994 vixen 5
http://http://www.teamkitfox.com/Forums/album.php?albumid=401&pictureid=4932

Av8r3400
03-29-2015, 04:13 PM
Plucked up all my courage the other day and started cutting my new panel for the Mangy Fox…

The greatest hits being: Dynon D180, Garmin 500 in a Gizmo, iCom A210, Garmin GTX 327.

Jesse
05-31-2015, 10:57 AM
Real wood veneer over aluminum. I think i will eventually mount an iPad in place of the panel i have now.

Paul Z
06-01-2015, 07:58 PM
Well I have finally got my upgraded the Panel on N703KA, went from an AF3500 to the AF5600. It was a fun swap. The week I got it in I ended up getting Diverticulosis again, 2 weeks of bed rest, liquid diet, 7 days of 2 different antibiotics, and a $1800 Cat Scan, and I’m doing better. All I have left to do is all of the calibrations work setting up the Oil Sensors, Fuel Sensors, Water Temps, Com Radio, Transponder, and calibrate the Magnetometer.

I also replaced the tail wheel tube, it was almost flat on my last landing. I aired it up after the last flight before sending off my AF3500, and then when I got the AF5600 in I went to the airport and found it flat again. I bit the bullet, ordered a new tube, when I pulled the wheel, the tube had a small wheel pinch. I plan on getting a tire patch, and fix the hole so I can use it as a spare. I also did a through exam of the engine and found that I was missing one Exhaust springs, got that ordered, and then noticed the bracket for the electronics module on top of the engine broke again, so I’ll be ordering another one, tomorrow, and get that replaced.

Then I’m ready to go flying. :D

PapuaPilot
06-01-2015, 08:15 PM
Paul,

Your upgrade looks great, bet you can't wait to get back in the air with it. I am just about done with the installation of my panel that has the Garmin G3X Touch 10" screen and can't wait to power it up. I won't be long and I will be posting a picture in this thread.

Reading about your bracket that cracked again and missing exhaust springs I am curious if you have done a dynamic balance on your prop. Sometimes these things happens from vibration coming from the engine & prop.

PapuaPilot
06-07-2015, 07:56 PM
I got all of my wiring done today other than hooking up the harnesses that go in the wing (nav, strobe, landing lights and magnetometer). After confirming all of the circuits and plugs to my Garmin G3X plugs we turned on the master switch. :D Next we checked one circuit at a time, cranked the engine and booted up the G3X. I was nervous, but everything worked great. What an exciting day!

Paul Z
06-08-2015, 07:56 PM
WaHoo, I got it all set up. The Com Radi is connected & interfaces with the AF 5600. I successfully flipped channels on the Advanced Flight, and then selected the Tower, Grround a Control, etc. You can see the channels match on the Garmin & the AF. Tomorrow I go out and do the two step dance (360 spin) with her to set the Magnatometer, and I'm ready to go flying. Looking at the heading it's damned close without doing the Calibration of the Magnatometer.

SkySteve
06-08-2015, 08:14 PM
Sweeeeeet. And to think, I have to look out the windo to see that view!;)

Paul Z
06-08-2015, 08:54 PM
I get to see the view also, both outside the cockpit and inside. The nice thing is the font on the Engines Instruments are large enough for me to read. I don't need to take off my glasses, and put my face about 6 to 9 inches from the advanced flight system to read the numbers. :D. I can now read them with my glasses and sit back and enjoy the flight.

TahoeTim
07-06-2015, 07:28 PM
Here's mine as of today. All MGL.

9362

9363

9364

9365

Dave Holl
09-03-2015, 11:54 AM
Here is my panel now almost finished!

jmodguy
02-28-2016, 03:18 PM
http://www.teamkitfox.com/Forums/picture.php?albumid=455&pictureid=5620

Dave S
02-28-2016, 04:38 PM
There are some might fine panels showing up on your planes:)

Reminded me of an addition to ours I haven't said anything about. Stein Air has a neat red LED strip that sticks under the lip of the panel (about 1/2" wide and 1/8" thick). It has a rheostat to adjust the brightness from off to full bright.

Please disregard distraction of the map light and the light from the ceiling, but you get the idea.

Also have an LED by each rear spar that gives a dim red fill in light to the whole cockpit.

The LED strip adjusts to an even illumimation of the entire panel (when it is actually dark)

No squinting required...not like the not so good old days:)

Sincerely,

Dave S
KF 7 Trigear
912ULS Warp Drive

jmodguy
03-14-2016, 02:43 PM
Update - All the "stuff" is in. Next up is paint then wiring. Should be done in a couple weeks if I can stay out of Arizona....

SkySteve
03-14-2016, 03:18 PM
Jeff,
Very nice. I especially LOVE the wine glasses hanging from the windscreen!!!!

jmodguy
03-14-2016, 05:14 PM
:D I'm all about cupholders...!

jiott
03-14-2016, 09:27 PM
If you can really do all the paint and wiring in two weeks, that would be beyond impressive!

jmodguy
03-15-2016, 03:01 PM
I cheat... I work for a big defense contractor in the wiring and interconnect department. :)
This panel really isn't that difficult. The EIS and EFIS harness is largely complete from GRT, just have to terminate the other end. Rest is pretty straightforward.
The iffy part will be the painting. Weather here is still a bit cool. Not easy to paint without a paint shop environment.

jmodguy
03-20-2016, 08:44 AM
I have a panel! Started wiring it yesterday morning and finished this morning. After power checks I pushed in the breakers and everything came up!
Now to take it all apart and get it painted...

Dave S
03-20-2016, 05:45 PM
Looking good Jeff!

Got a question - looks like you have some type of switches along the bottom of the panel with indicator lights.....what brand and model are they?

Dave S

jmodguy
03-21-2016, 03:45 PM
Dave,
They are NTE Round Hole Illuminated Rocker, Square Bezel switches. LEDs come in red (54-645), amber (54-645A), green (54-645G) and blue (54-645B). They run $3.50 to just under $5 each. I get mine from arcade-electronics.com for about $3.50 each although the big stores carry them too. I like to support the little shops...
Spec sheet attached.
These switches are rated 20A at 12VDC!
I am using a dimmer as they can get pretty bright and if you plan on any night flying they might be a bit much. The dimmer I found that works with these lights is from Oznium.com.
https://www.oznium.com/led-dimmer-knob
Regards
Jeff

Dave S
03-21-2016, 04:37 PM
Thanks for the info Jeff....the 20 amp rating is great; also, the dimmer spec says up to 6 amps of LEDs - more than enough reserve!

Dave s

jmodguy
03-21-2016, 05:57 PM
When you hook the switch up pin 1 is 12v supply, pin 2 is the load, and pin 3 goes to the - output of the dimmer. The + output of the dimmer is not used. The Input + and - of the dimmer need to be connected to your lighting power source and ground. Be advised that this dimmer pulls power in the off state so you need to be able to isolate power from this circuit when the aircraft is not in use.
Nice thing about the dimmer is that it has an off position and has a slight resistance to rotation. Also comes with a black and a chrome knob so you can pick which you like.
Regards
Jeff

MLaRosa
03-29-2016, 09:37 AM
Very!! nice layout. What is the MGL instrument you have and how do you like the white panel color? Thinking of doing mine in white.

Mark

gregsgt
03-29-2016, 10:10 AM
Its an MGL E-1 used to replace the old quad gauge. I'm very happy with it.

I like the white panel color. It helps me to separate the instruments when scanning across them. I noticed when I was flying the 172 with the black panel the instruments all sort of blended together and it took me a little longer to focus on one.

jiott
03-29-2016, 11:54 AM
I would think white might be too much glare if the sun was shining in somewhat from the rear directly on the panel. I would suggest some lighter matt finish color in between white and black. My 2 cents (glare really bothers my eyes).

gregsgt
03-29-2016, 12:00 PM
It's actually more of a creme color with a satin finish so it's not glossy. I've never had a glare complaint from the panel. The dash you would definitely want something that doesn't cast a glare on the windshield though.

MLaRosa
03-29-2016, 02:34 PM
I'm thinking of using white epoxy primer with a gloss reducing additive which also tones down the bright white because of the additives tea like color. My glare shield will remain black. I just bought the MGL RV-1 Infinity for Rpm, the Velocity AHRS with SP6 Magnetometer for compass only for now and the V6 transceiver. I will have a mix of vintage steam and modern digital and wont have to screw the compass to the glare shield.

PapuaPilot
03-29-2016, 04:58 PM
I didn't want the potential of glare from my instrument panel when using the G3X so I stuck with flat grey and flat black.

A light color panel can reflect more light onto other things, like your clothes which can be seen on the instruments or screens of your panel.

Never the less I really like the look of gregsgt's panel, the instruments really stand out.

TJay
09-12-2016, 05:24 PM
Started My IP this weekend not quite finished yet But it is started,

Pilot4Life
09-12-2016, 09:02 PM
Looks good TJay...I see you have lightening holes on the sides...are you planning to remain as is without a center console to reduce completion weight as well? Love the CF panel! Looks really clean.

TJay
09-13-2016, 04:02 AM
nah Ill build a small console in there to to hide everything, Thanks

gizmos
09-24-2016, 05:17 PM
Still wiring,simple panel, 796,G-5,305 A/P, EI,egt,cht fuel,oil,volt, 240 audio,comm1 gtr225,comm2 sl40,327 transponder,composite electric panel and a couple steam. Lots of work. Going all glass on my rv-9a

N213RV
03-21-2017, 08:52 AM
Panel is finally installed! I might swap out the ugly silver placard for a more discreet version.......

jrevens
03-21-2017, 10:10 AM
That's beautiful, Mike! Very professional job... you've got "glass" in more ways than one - what kind of finish is that? Very nice. What did you do on the glareshield?

Gizmos - I really like your's too!

I should have started to pay more attention to all these works of art in this thread before forging ahead with mine.

N213RV
03-21-2017, 03:58 PM
Hi John,

Thanks for the compliments. I used Ranthane paint for the plane and panel. I set the panel perfectly flat and loaded it up with paint!

For the glareshield I used black microfiber cloth.

airlina
03-21-2017, 04:06 PM
Oh man, another guy I won't be able to park my Kitfox next to! Nice job Mike very professional and clean . A well thought out panel indeed. Bruce N199CL

PapuaPilot
03-21-2017, 06:50 PM
Yes indeed, that is one beautiful panel. My only concern would be reflection you are going to get, especially since the KF has the full skylight. I get plenty of reflection off of my screens alone.

Have you thought about making the placard with white font and black background?

N213RV
03-22-2017, 07:11 AM
Yes indeed, that is one beautiful panel...

I have had similar panels (gloss black) in all my planes.... RV-4, RV-10, and now the KitFox. It has never been an issue for me, even in the bubble canopy of the -4...... I did order the white lettered dry transfer placard/decal from AS&S, it should arrive tomorrow. I may swap it out, we'll see.

PaulSS
03-28-2017, 01:46 AM
G'day Mike,

That panel certainly does look very nicely planned out and executed and I'm sure it'll be a pleasure to fly behind.

Can I ask where you got your switches and what model/type they are. I much prefer those to the 'normal' toggle switches and like the way you've incorporated them into the panel. I am quite willing to steal the idea of anybody who comes up with a design like yours :D

N213RV
03-29-2017, 07:22 PM
G'day Mike,

That panel certainly does look very nicely planned out and executed...

Hi Paul,
Believe it or not, they are the Tyco W31 series breaker switches.....only flush mounted..... I laid out the hole pattern I wanted on the instrument panel. I then bent a piece of 0.063 aluminum 90 degrees to make a doubler for the bottom if the IP. I clamped and match drilled through both pieces. I then installed the switches with nuts to the doubler behind the IP and bolted this assembly to the lower lip of the IP. Hopefully you can see it in the attached photo, it was rather simple to do.

PaulSS
03-29-2017, 07:39 PM
Thank you for the reply, Mike and what a great idea. The toggle switches look great and you've got a combined switch and CB, so don't have to have so many 'normal' round ones popping through the panel (excuse the very poor pun). I love some of the imagination and ingenuity that's shown by guys like you :)

N213RV
03-30-2017, 05:04 AM
Found a couple more pictures:

N213RV
03-30-2017, 05:10 AM
I am not sure if anyone noticed the hidden hinge glove box.... here are some pictures of it as well....

PaulSS
03-30-2017, 10:57 AM
Yep, those latest photos make it very clear what you did and cleared up the question in my mind of how you secured the switches to the aluminium frame. I am considering the RockRack switches but if they prove to be a no-go then I will blatantly plagiarise your idea :D

Esser
11-27-2017, 07:37 PM
Panel coming together. Still missing the iPad mount. Messed up some of the labelling and have to redo it. The registration wasn’t supposed to be that big!

efwd
11-27-2017, 07:58 PM
Placed my final LEDs. N number yet to be applied. Far upper Right corner may have the new Kitfox logo.

jrevens
11-27-2017, 08:21 PM
Those both look very nice, Josh and Eddie. Eddie - did you know that the FAA has changed the required wording on the passenger warning placard? It is actually a little simpler and leaves out the "Amateur Built" part of the statement. The new required wording is - " Passenger Warning - this aircraft does not comply with Federal Safety Regulations for standard aircraft."

I'm not sure if it's true, but I've been told that inspectors from now on will require the new wording. Any aircraft inspected and approved prior to the change don't have to make the change.

efwd
11-27-2017, 11:08 PM
AAHHHH! no I didn't know that. Back to the decal maker I suppose. Should be easy to change. I spent untold hours trying to get these decals made. White ink was almost undoable so on that particular decal you will notice that its silver and not white. The metalics are easy to produce and thankfully they come off pretty easily with alcohol. Thanks John

efwd
11-27-2017, 11:17 PM
Hmm, AS&S hasn't got the new Passanger Warning. Still selling the old I guess. Dang it.

jrevens
11-28-2017, 12:53 AM
You should confirm that it's necessary before you remove yours, Eddie. I've got the old one too, and I haven't talked to my DAR about it yet. Someone supposedly knowledgeable about it told me mine would have to be replaced.

colospace
11-29-2017, 04:14 PM
Finally got may panel and console labeled (placards from a local mom & pop shop that John Evens put me onto). Day VFR; Dynon everything.

efwd
11-29-2017, 05:45 PM
Very nice. I love those radios. I really like the way you did the fabric on the center console slots. May have to copy you. Can you educate us on the USB port and the ports just below that? I would like to wire in the USB too.
Eddie

av8rps
11-29-2017, 06:00 PM
Beautiful! I'm jealous :D

colospace
11-30-2017, 06:58 PM
Thanks guys.
Eddie, that is leather (from Tandy Leather) on the center console (and also the glare shield). I have tasked my wife with designing the seats, and plan to use some of the same leather for trim there as well.
The "data only" USB port is an extension cable made by DataPro (#1698-02C) (probably found it on Amazon, but do not recall for sure) and it ties into the back of my Dynon EFIS.
The lower dual USB charging ports are actually a single device from commitlift.com (the owner gave a good seminar on USB charging at OSH this year).

Cherrybark
02-12-2018, 04:07 PM
I started following this thread months ago and am thrilled to add my "almost finished" panel. Completing this phase of the project is a real milestone.

The blank area on the right will eventually have a RAM Mount for a 10" iPad. A traditional "in panel" mount was going to be a very tight fit for this size iPad. The RAM Mount lets the iPad be swiveled for better viewing or to remove glare. There will be plenty of air circulation so overheating shouldn't be a problem. And the iPad can be quickly removed from the spring loaded cable. I'll wait till the glare shield is in place to decide exactly where to drill the four holes for the mount.

Switches, breakers, grips are from Kitfox. Garmin components are from SteinAir. CAV13 Rotax 912iS status monitor is from Cambridge Avionics. Labels made with a Brother P-Touch.

colospace
02-12-2018, 05:08 PM
Looking good Carl. Your labels turned out really nice. I can't help but notice from this and your First Build a Shed posts, that you have a lot less wiring coming through under the console with your Garmin than I do with my Dynon setup.

TJay
02-12-2018, 07:48 PM
looks good

PapuaPilot
02-12-2018, 08:00 PM
Looking great Carl. You are going to like the G3X.

jiott
02-12-2018, 10:16 PM
I'm curious Carl, what is the point of taking up panel space for an iPad? Surely your Garmin screen has anything the iPad has plus more, and it is fully aircraft quality and easily read in bright sunlight. If the iPad is just a backup, why not keep it in the baggage compartment and use that panel space for a nice glovebox.

David47
02-13-2018, 04:06 AM
Just as an idea Carl - this is something I'm looking at for my panel - make a glovebox as Jim suggests and mount the iPad to a glovebox door. If you make the glovebox big enough, you could even store it inside.

Cherrybark
02-13-2018, 06:04 AM
The iPad idea is simply because I have an iPad laying around and thought it might be useful. You know, all of those flight planning articles floating around the internet. I'm building more of a puddle jumper so flight planning usually boils down to, "It's a pretty day, let's head over to..."

A glove box is probably a better use of that space. Now, how am I going to cut the hole in the panel without messing up the powder coating?

PapuaPilot
02-13-2018, 07:21 AM
I'm curious Carl, what is the point of taking up panel space for an iPad? Surely your Garmin screen has anything the iPad has plus more, and it is fully aircraft quality and easily read in bright sunlight. If the iPad is just a backup, why not keep it in the baggage compartment and use that panel space for a nice glovebox.

I really like having my iPad on the panel. I installed an AirGizmo mount and it is looks like it belongs in the panel. Most of the time I keep it on the traffic page. It's pretty cool to have two big screens and have a PFD and MFD.

Esser
02-13-2018, 08:54 AM
I like the iPad. They are super capable, the apps are constantly improved, and I can flight plan while drinking my coffee at home, get to the airport, and pop it in. The map updates and everything are super easy

aviator79
02-13-2018, 09:53 AM
I plan to do something simliar with an iPad mount. Yes, the PFD does everything the iPad does and more, but the iPad makes a decent poor-man's MFD. You can have your navigation on a 10" screen instead of half of a 10" screen, or bring up airport data large enough to be readable and still have your primary flight instruments displayed. Going out to poke holes in the sky, I probably wouldn't have the iPad there, but on a cross country of any length, it's nice to be able to organize your cockpit information across a couple screens.

bholland
02-13-2018, 06:56 PM
I'm putting in an IPAD as well. Not just as a backup but you can also get more information from of it, if needed. This is how I did mine so I could have the glove box.

Brett
mykitlog.com/bholland

Cherrybark
02-13-2018, 08:30 PM
I got a chuckle from the "$" on the SV-HDX1100

TJay
04-07-2018, 06:22 PM
My awesome wife used her photo shop skills and made me some labels today.

grdev
06-08-2018, 05:40 AM
I'm just starting on my model 3 panel. I have the GRT 7" EFIS , a Garmin GTX 327 transponder, and a V6 2 1/4" round Transceiver. Any ideas or photos of a similar panel you would share?

thanks
grdev

gizmos
06-24-2018, 10:14 PM
I have gtx327 with gdl39 3D and Gdl 82 ,gtr225, gtr200, gma 245,gmc307,g-5 with 796,ei Fuel,cht,egt,oil and amp/ volt with composite design power panel,power plane 2nd alternator and Rotax 912 uls 100 hp to carry it. Total weight with custom interior is 825lb. I have aoa that I have not installed yet
I do have steam air speed ,veritcalgauge, a must for me. Lol photos does not show completed interior,carpet,panels...

Dorsal
06-25-2018, 12:58 PM
Nice! but where is the cappuccino maker?

Seriously beautiful work.

gizmos
06-25-2018, 02:51 PM
I am also finishing my Rv9a, that is where the coffee maker is located lol. I plan on flying my Kitfox more than my Rv9a, cheaper on gas, spent all my money on the panels lol. I am going to weld up me a trailer for my kitfox5, looks like no one has off the shelf with 8-0 ft clear inside

efwd
06-25-2018, 08:09 PM
I'm glad to see that your my neighbor. I think there is a better than avg. chance I'm going to get to see all your gadgets there "McGyver".:D
Eddie

PaulSS
06-25-2018, 11:45 PM
Yours must be up and running by now, isn't it, Eddie? I'm looking forward to seeing it in all its glory.

I've just been helping a friend of mine with his RV8 and the Dynon Skyview. I have to admit is is very intuitive and we got it all going with the smoke staying inside the wires.....which is a good thing. I was particularly happy with the fuel calibration which showed 39 litres one side and 40 on the other, which was exactly the amount we had poured in and taken out etc. I just hope all the other readings prove as accurate :)

efwd
06-26-2018, 07:15 AM
No Paul, It should be but I postponed my wiring harness. AS&S got a new electrical shop and a new laser wire etcher and so I asked them to wait on my harness until they are using the laser. They were supposed to have it done last week but as of yet, I have not heard anything. I expect to hear from them today. I was not in a great hurry to get onto the wiring since I had a lot of other things I could build. But, now the airplane is finished except wiring.
Eddie

PaulSS
06-26-2018, 08:23 AM
From what I've seen of the standard of your build you should have done it yourself. If I can do it then anyone can. A few gold pins and a crimper is all you need. I didn't even need to terrify anyone with my sub-standard soldering :o Admittedly the wires are not laser etched but they do have printed shrink tubing to identify the equipment.

tjentzsch
09-20-2018, 03:28 PM
I'm putting in an IPAD as well. Not just as a backup but you can also get more information from of it, if needed. This is how I did mine so I could have the glove box.

Brett
mykitlog.com/bholland

What is the mount you are using for the ipad?

tjentzsch
09-20-2018, 03:40 PM
Is the kit fox panel's dimensions universal among all kit fox versions?

I am wanting to do some mock ups and am looking for a template or dimensions I can use to create one.

efwd
09-20-2018, 04:48 PM
The panels are not universal.

bholland
09-20-2018, 06:36 PM
TJ,
This is the on I used. I think I bought it from Aircraft Spruce, GUARDIAN INSTRUMENT PANEL FLUSH MOUNT FOR IPAD MINI
Part # 13-18919

Brett

tjentzsch
09-20-2018, 07:08 PM
Cool, that seems to be the one most people use. Very nice mount.

aviator79
10-17-2018, 06:10 AM
There are some earlier pictures in my build thread, but now everything is in.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/SnjTBamclysyllxCYSV9Pta3ihIYs04ghQX2nigJEPH926fWAX qnrwrlPu4lvcNWuuSut2n9kj75qmdPGny8mHiGXxXdqvk-fvGgGuGJomH8fm4rdLFAKaHUVWBmZnQr4xSrwPi2edg=w1200

Russell320
10-17-2018, 09:16 AM
I love the start button!:)

Clark in AZ
10-17-2018, 10:25 AM
Brian, that is Sweet! Not long now and you'll be airborne!


Clark

Dorsal
10-17-2018, 03:45 PM
Looks really nice!

efwd
10-17-2018, 04:08 PM
I like that start button also. I was not able to locate one that didn't say "engine start/Stop". so, just a red button for me.

PaulSS
10-17-2018, 05:39 PM
Start button for Eddie (https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Car-19mm-0-7in-Engine-Start-Push-Button-Switch-Ignition-Starter-Stainless-Steel/282826466605?hash=item41d9c5652d:g:9FEAAOSwm8NbEfe X:rk:3:pf:0) :)

(Funny that I recently ordered a stainless one and a black one, just to give me the option with a carbon fibre wrap on the panel)

efwd
10-17-2018, 08:54 PM
Thanks Paul. At this point Im kinda growing tired of redoing stuff I have already finished. The latest was the over head shade. I may order this for a future replacement but I also have an issue with getting the LED lit because I have a vertical power for my circuits. I'll spare you the details but it isn't so straight forward and I am no electrician. thank you for the link though. I may still buy that.

Clark in AZ
10-17-2018, 09:25 PM
Details about the Vertical Power please. I'm interested in them for my build.



Thanks,
Clark

PaulSS
10-18-2018, 01:57 AM
Haha, I can understand where you're coming from, Eddie, especially with the problems you've had with your harness.

A couple of things to consider:

(a)Don't bother with the LED lighting
(b)It would be a straight swap for the starter button you have, so no new wiring
(c)If you really did want the LED then all you have to do is pick off a supply from any live (even your master solenoid before it goes to the VPX) and then the other terminal just goes to ground. It's not powering anything but the LED in the switch housing, so it'll draw a teeny current.

But I can empathise with the fact that you don't want to change stuff :)