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ibrick_s
10-05-2010, 12:54 PM
Hi everyone,

My name is Rick and I'm in the process of finally scratching a life long itch. I'm presently working on my permit and am absolutely smitten by the Classic IV tail dragger. I feel competent enough for the build of a kit but documentation for Transport Canada for the intent of carrying a passenger might not be possible.

So, I need to know if any Canadian owner has their Kitfox registered as an advanced ultra light (AULA)?

Thanks for any response and it sure would be nice if Canada and the U.S. would coordinate the Ultra Light/Light Sport industry.

Rick

84KF
10-05-2010, 02:13 PM
I don't know anything about Canadian regs, but there is this......

http://www.tc.gc.ca/eng/civilaviation/standards/general-ccarcs-advancedullist-2036.htm

Scroll down to "Skystar Aircraft Corp", it lists the Model IV.

Don't have a clue as to what it means though.

Ehfox
10-05-2010, 06:48 PM
Hi, Rick...I bought a KF4 in the USA in August....getting my inspection on Thursday...you might want to register it as an amateur built. You can still fly it with an ultralight permit because it meets our ultralight aircraft guidelines....Plus you will be able to carry a passenger once you get the carrying endorsement on your license. The downside is that being amateur-built will mean inspections will be required($$$$). You will also need an ELT, carb.heat system and a gascolater. Hope this helps. Dan.

ibrick_s
10-05-2010, 08:18 PM
Thanks for the replies guys!

Steve, yes I found that link and the “no longer issuing Statements of Conformity” under the Skystar was causing me my importing problems. I have since got in contact with John at Kitfox and he told me that he would issue one after an inspection process on a kit I presume that he sold rather than Skystar but I’m not sure Transport Canada will recognize it.

Dan, a two four and poutine for you in thanks. I was getting so disheartened thinking that my only option would be a kit already on the list Steve linked to. Your advice of amateur built was totally overlooked and I am now reviewing all the government info on importation, registration and maintenance of an American built.

I'm glad I found this forum, there is hope…..
Rick

Ehfox
10-06-2010, 05:49 AM
Glad I could help...be aware that the plane needs at least 100hrs. time on it....let me know if I can be of further assistence....Dan.

Papa Beach
10-08-2010, 08:30 PM
Rick,

I'm contemplating selling my tri-gear Kitfox IV which is easily converted to a taildragger. So, if you are interested, let me know and I will send particulars.

In terms of registration, it's easy to convert to an advanced ultralight but not the reverse. I believe you are better to stick with the advanced in spite of possible additional costs in view of the benefits...as pointed out by Ehfox. In terms of inspections, you can do your own but I get a little assistance from my A & P.

Ehfox
10-09-2010, 09:50 AM
PB...Is your KF registered as an Advanced Ultralight? I was trying to do that initially, but getting a "Statement of Conformity" wasn't possible. KF's aren't on the list of eligable planes.

Papa Beach
10-09-2010, 11:12 AM
http://www.tc.gc.ca/eng/civilaviation/standards/maintenance-aarpc-ac-549-1b-2745.htm

http://www.tc.gc.ca/eng/civilaviation/standards/general-recavi-ultralight-modsadulmanufacturer-524.htm

http://www.tc.gc.ca/eng/civilaviation/standards/general-recavi-ultralight-modsadulowner-2458.htm

http://www.upac.ca/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=141&Itemid=56


Rick, in re-reading my original post I see I wrote it was better to stick with the "Advanced" but I meant to say with the "Amateur built". I've provided some websites that may help you Rick.

Dan, mine is registered as an amateur built.