Agreed Jim - and if I was really trying to save some dollars I would not sweat leaving it out of the mix in preference to going flying!

I liked your description of the leave fall stall Jim. I too did it during the testing phase - and a few times since. It really builds confidence in the plane. I think I ay have had the pleasure of experiencing Floog's unique "altitude adjustment" technique! Not exactly textbook but it does keep the aircraft pointed towards the target!

Hope all is good up there with you guys - I still have fond memories of your generosity and look forward o repaying it some day!

cheers

r